Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Beholderbob 03-25-05, 04:02 PM	I'd like to find/make a list of creatures suitable for use as improved familiars - I'd like to expand the list in the MM / DMG. Any good ideas from MM II & III, or Fiend Folio? Some possible ideas (equip, vile, MM I, II, FF - but not MM III) Feedback & other ideas (expec MM III) EQ Dog - Climbdog FF Blood Hawk FF Devil, Imp - Bloodbag FF Devil, Imp - Euphoric FF Devil, Imp - Filth FF Flame Snake, Minor FF Half-Illithid FF Half-Troll FF Shadow Asp FF Yurian M1 Darkmantle M1 Salamander, Flamebrother M1 Stirge M1 Xorn - Minor M2 Ash Rat M2 Corollax M2 Demon, Jovoc M2 Felldrake, Crested M2 Half-Golem M2 Jermlaine M2 Monster of Legend M2 Phase Wasp SV Gelatinous Creature SV Multiheaded Creature (+1 Head) SV Mummified Creature SV Spectral Creature SV Umbral Creature VD Demon, Mane B:88E:B
Beholderbob 03-29-05, 01:41 PM	le bump B:88E:B
RogerWilco 03-29-05, 06:07 PM	PH Bat PH Cat PH Hawk PH Lizard PH Owl PH Rat PH Raven PH Snake PH Toad PH Weasel PGtF Deathfang PGtF Flying Snake PGtF Lizard, spitting crawler PGtF Lynx PGtF Osquip PGtF Tressym
Beholderbob 03-29-05, 06:18 PM	PH Bat PH Cat PH Hawk PH Lizard PH Owl PH Rat PH Raven PH Snake PH Toad PH Weasel PGtF Deathfang PGtF Flying Snake PGtF Lizard, spitting crawler PGtF Lynx PGtF Osquip PGtF Tressym Cool, thank you. I'm looking to add new ones to the existing list, though - creatures not already dealt with. For the ones I included in my post - do they seem suitable? What level would you assign? And most important, are there critters I should have listed but didn't? For instance, is an Ash Rat a good 3rd or 5th level familar? What templates would make good additions to familiars (an ooze focused wizard would love adding a gelatinous template to his weasel, for instance). B:88E:B
The Vorpal Tribble 03-29-05, 06:47 PM	You looking for homebrewed familiars as well?
Centauri 03-29-05, 06:50 PM	You looking for homebrewed familiars as well? Yeah, let me know, because I whipped up (with help from this board) a tarantula familiar for my group's sorcerer.
Beholderbob 03-29-05, 06:51 PM	You looking for homebrewed familiars as well? I wasn't initially, my goal was to use the core monster books to expand the list - so the familairs would be portable into most anyones game. Okay - I see some interest in some home brew familiars! Sure, post em! Oh, and give feedback on the core list I've made. Am I listing critters inappropriate for being familiars - ones too powerful/too wimpy? Suggest level requirements too. B:88E:B
Hammerhead 03-29-05, 08:31 PM	SK- Sewerm MM3- lurking strangler( i think)
The Vorpal Tribble 03-29-05, 08:34 PM	Though they aren't technically familiars, psicrystals (http://srd.pbemnexus.com/psionicMonsters.html#psicrystal) from the Expanded Psionics Handbook are the psionic equivalent to them. http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/xph_gallery/80502.jpg Otherwise I've only played one character with a familiar and it was just a simple owl. --- Here are some familiars I've come up with though: Canopy Scorpion (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=403770) Giant Salamander (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5103918&postcount=7) Pangolin (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5103147&postcount=4) And though they weren't intended as familiars, the Gamecock (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=338980), Jackalope (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=4934016#post4934016) and Feathered Widower (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5753104&postcount=88) could very easily be made into one.
Beholderbob 03-30-05, 11:08 AM	SK- Sewerm MM3- lurking strangler( i think) What book is SK? B:88E:B
BladeBoy 03-30-05, 11:21 AM	MonstersoF-Eyeball Beholderkin They're just fun.
otomik 03-30-05, 11:25 AM	what criteria are you using? the PHB familiars all have a CR no higher than 1/3 and a size no larger than tiny the Improved Familiar feats lists ones with CR3 or less and a size of small or less if you listed the size and CR of the ones above that would be nice, but i don't know why you've selected them.
Beholderbob 03-30-05, 11:40 AM	Small, CR 1....Dog - Climbdog Small, CR 1/2.Blood Hawk Tiny, CR 3....Devil, Imp - Bloodbag Tiny, CR 3....Devil, Imp - Euphoric Tiny, CR 2....Devil, Imp - Filth Small, CR 1...Flame Snake, Minor .........CR +3.Half-Illithid .........CR +2.Half-Troll Tiny, CR 1....Shadow Asp Small, CR 1...Yurian Small, CR 1...M1 Darkmantle Small, CR 3...Salamander, Flamebrother Tiny, CR 1/2.Stirge Small, CR 3...Xorn - Minor Tiny, CR 1....Ash Rat Tiny, CR 1/2.Corollax Small, CR 5...Demon, Jovoc Small, CR 1...Felldrake, Crested .........CR +3.Half-Golem Tiny, CR 1/2.Jermlaine .........CR +2.Monster of Legend Tiny, CR 2....Phase Wasp .........CR +2.Gelatinous Creature .........CR +2.Multiheaded Creature (+1 Head) .........CR +3.Mummified Creature .........CR +3.Spectral Creature .........CR +3.Umbral Creature Small, CR 1...Demon, Mane Per your request B:88E:B
theOne333 03-30-05, 11:08 PM	Edit: NVM.
BladeBoy 03-31-05, 12:08 PM	All these are good familiars, and no need for the improved familiar feat! Floater Critic Lizard Kes'trekel Speckled Hurrum Mulworm Jankx Ramphor Z'tal all from Dungeon #110 Ya know, the Dark Sun issue.
Beholderbob 03-31-05, 12:20 PM	All these are good familiars, and no need for the improved familiar feat! Floater Critic Lizard Kes'trekel Speckled Hurrum Mulworm Jankx Ramphor Z'tal all from Dungeon #110 Ya know, the Dark Sun issue. Sounds good - but do you have the 3.5 stats for them (and if so, could you post them)? B:88E:B
BladeBoy 03-31-05, 11:11 PM	yeah, the stats are in 3.5 ( i know because starting in issue 109 it's all in 3.5, poo) Critic Lizard Tiny Animal (Psionic) HD 1/2 d8 (2hp) Ini +2 Speed 20ft (4 squares), climb 20ft AC 15 (+2 size, +1 dex, +2 natural), touch 13, flat footed 14 BA/Grp +0/-11 Attack Bite+3 melee (1d3-4) Full Attack Bite+3 melee (1d3-4) space/reach 2-1/2 ft/0ft SA: Psi Like Abilites SQ: LLV F/R/W +2/+3/+1 Abilities Str 5, Dex 13, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 11 Skills Balance +9, Climb+11, Hide+11, Listen +3, Spot+3 Feats: Alertness, Weapon Finese (b) Enviroment: Warm Desert (duh, black sun is nearly all desert..) Org: Solitary CR 1/4 Treasure -- Alignment: Always Neutral Advance:-- Level Adjustment:-- there, that's one, and wow it took alot of typing...