A Ghost Wizard and spell recovery [Archive] - Wizards Community

A Ghost Wizard and spell recovery [Archive] - Wizards Community

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SillyRobot
04-25-07, 07:11 PM A Wizard dies and returns as a ghost. His spellbook has been looted.

Is there a sensible mechanic for the recovery of his spells or should his CR be lowered to account since he is effectively a commoner with good Will save?
CryoSilver
04-25-07, 07:28 PM Have him retain the spells he had prepared at death, but with no way to get them back once cast.
runestar
04-25-07, 11:12 PM You could have him take spell masteries...lots of them...

His spell selection will be quite limited though. He might require the eschew materials feat as well.
Dead_Weasel
04-26-07, 04:03 AM I'm with CryoSilver on this count.
Note that if the ghost actually comes across a spellbook, it has to use Malevolence on some unfortunate creature before it can turn the pages, in order to memorize new spells. Unless the spellbook happens to be open to first- or second-level spells, in which case the ghost has two options at most to choose from.
runestar
04-26-07, 04:40 AM Couldn't it use telekinesis to manipulate the spellbook or something?:P
Morwen
04-26-07, 07:47 PM You could have the transformation to Ghost also change his Wizard levels to Sorcerer levels :)
CryoSilver
04-26-07, 07:53 PM You could have the transformation to Ghost also change his Wizard levels to Sorcerer levels :)

No, see, I think he wants the ghost to still be a tough fight :P
Evil DM Mk3
04-26-07, 08:12 PM No, see, I think he wants the ghost to still be a tough fight :P

Well that is easy. The wizard knows that untill his book is back with his body his ghostly version won't return so he has not used A SINGLE CANTRIP untill he finds the theives, reling on ghostly abilites. It has given him an interesting insight into preserving resorces.
Mindolin
04-27-07, 12:23 AM Okay, I know this is 3rd Edition, but it is a passable prescedent for 3.5: in Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil, there is a ghost wizard. What he does is this: he keeps the spells he had prepared at his death, and the spell slots are restored after about 8 hours. He keeps the spells he had memorized, but only temporarily flushes them from his memory.
Perseus_Stoned
04-27-07, 12:46 AM No, see, I think he wants the ghost to still be a tough fight :P

Ouch, although considering the crazy synergy boosts it would get with Charisma... (seeing as how its a baddie and not a PC)
Morwen
04-27-07, 06:37 PM No, see, I think he wants the ghost to still be a tough fight :P

Nice one :)

Although I actually prefer my NPCs to be Sorcerers, as they require less meticulous planning.
Dead_Weasel
04-28-07, 04:44 AM Couldn't it use telekinesis to manipulate the spellbook or something?:P

Telekinesis has a round/level duration. Mage hand, however, might be workable.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SillyRobot 04-25-07, 07:11 PM	A Wizard dies and returns as a ghost. His spellbook has been looted. Is there a sensible mechanic for the recovery of his spells or should his CR be lowered to account since he is effectively a commoner with good Will save?
CryoSilver 04-25-07, 07:28 PM	Have him retain the spells he had prepared at death, but with no way to get them back once cast.
runestar 04-25-07, 11:12 PM	You could have him take spell masteries...lots of them... His spell selection will be quite limited though. He might require the eschew materials feat as well.
Dead_Weasel 04-26-07, 04:03 AM	I'm with CryoSilver on this count. Note that if the ghost actually comes across a spellbook, it has to use Malevolence on some unfortunate creature before it can turn the pages, in order to memorize new spells. Unless the spellbook happens to be open to first- or second-level spells, in which case the ghost has two options at most to choose from.
runestar 04-26-07, 04:40 AM	Couldn't it use telekinesis to manipulate the spellbook or something?:P
Morwen 04-26-07, 07:47 PM	You could have the transformation to Ghost also change his Wizard levels to Sorcerer levels :)
CryoSilver 04-26-07, 07:53 PM	You could have the transformation to Ghost also change his Wizard levels to Sorcerer levels :) No, see, I think he wants the ghost to still be a tough fight :P
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:12 PM	No, see, I think he wants the ghost to still be a tough fight :P Well that is easy. The wizard knows that untill his book is back with his body his ghostly version won't return so he has not used A SINGLE CANTRIP untill he finds the theives, reling on ghostly abilites. It has given him an interesting insight into preserving resorces.
Mindolin 04-27-07, 12:23 AM	Okay, I know this is 3rd Edition, but it is a passable prescedent for 3.5: in Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil, there is a ghost wizard. What he does is this: he keeps the spells he had prepared at his death, and the spell slots are restored after about 8 hours. He keeps the spells he had memorized, but only temporarily flushes them from his memory.
Perseus_Stoned 04-27-07, 12:46 AM	No, see, I think he wants the ghost to still be a tough fight :P Ouch, although considering the crazy synergy boosts it would get with Charisma... (seeing as how its a baddie and not a PC)
Morwen 04-27-07, 06:37 PM	No, see, I think he wants the ghost to still be a tough fight :P Nice one :) Although I actually prefer my NPCs to be Sorcerers, as they require less meticulous planning.
Dead_Weasel 04-28-07, 04:44 AM	Couldn't it use telekinesis to manipulate the spellbook or something?:P Telekinesis has a round/level duration. Mage hand, however, might be workable.