Aboleth's Slime affliction and Paladins [Archive] - Wizards Community

Aboleth's Slime affliction and Paladins [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Deitus
04-24-05, 11:49 AM Hey there,
Recentlythere was an encounter with an aboleth,which brought up a discussion about wether the slime affliction is a disease. which would make the paladin immune to the affliction.
Right now the general consensus is that it is not a disease, so the paladin is now clear and slimey. A condition which the paladin finds distasteful.
Just looking for some outside input, either way.

Thanks

Deitus
Wyrd Bearer
04-24-05, 12:23 PM Well, technically, there is nothing in the Aboleth's profile saying that the slime is a disease, it's only an affliction, so it would only affect evil creatures, because its a holy disease.... oh wait *stops mocking the moronic afflictions outlined in BoED*

But seriously, it doesn't specifically say it is a disease and it has no incubation period, which supports it not being a disease. However, during the transformation, it can be stopped by remove disease, so why didn't the paladin just cure his/herself before it was too late?
Deitus
04-24-05, 01:23 PM Hey there

The point that it's not a disease, but can be cure by a "remove Disease" spell/ ability is the problem in this small situation. The Paladin, and the rest of the group for that matter never really got to the Curing part as the session ended onthe discussion of the disease issue.
Plus I think that the Paladin missed the fact he possessed remove Disease While the affliction was talking about the need for cure Disease.

Oh well.

The disease will be taken care of assoon as tonights session begins, but I bet the complaining about the issue will take a few extra minutes.

Thanks

Deitus
Wyrd Bearer
04-24-05, 01:54 PM Hey there

The point that it's not a disease, but can be cure by a "remove Disease" spell/ ability is the problem in this small situation. The Paladin, and the rest of the group for that matter never really got to the Curing part as the session ended onthe discussion of the disease issue.
Plus I think that the Paladin missed the fact he possessed remove Disease While the affliction was talking about the need for cure Disease.

Oh well.

The disease will be taken care of assoon as tonights session begins, but I bet the complaining about the issue will take a few extra minutes.

Thanks

Deitus

Well heck, there are several things that can be taken care of with remove disease but aren't diseases themselves. Take a look at the vrock's spore ability. Its not a disease, but treating it as such with magic will take care of it.

The important thing here is that while the paladin isn't immune to the slime, as long as he uses his remove disease ability within the 1d4+1 minutes it takes for him to completely transform, he'll be fine. After than, he'll need the cleric to cast a heal spell on him.
nightwing
04-24-05, 04:48 PM A long time ago, I was playing a paladin whose party encountered a body infested with rot-grubs. The DM ruled that the paladin would be immune to them (because of the "can be killed by cure disease" thing). I picked them up and put them in an empty jar (or potion vial or something) and kept them as pets for a while. Then we encountered a drake or something like that a while later and I threw the jar into its mouth. It was pretty cool. I'm not sure the DM made the right call, but it was pretty fun to play! Today, I'd say that doesn't work, but what the heck, it's just a game. Do whatever enhances the "funness" of your game.

cheers!
Khalarak Ironclaw
04-25-05, 10:26 AM I think of it this way: the paladin's immunity to disease is a manifestation of his divine purity; his body cannot be corrupted. I'd say that the aboleth's slime is definitely a corrupting influence, because it's actually changing him and not simply attacking him the way a poison does. Maybe I'm not making much sense, but it makes sense with the flavor a paladin to be immune to the slime.
Nuntius128
04-25-05, 04:26 PM I think of it this way: the paladin's immunity to disease is a manifestation of his divine purity; his body cannot be corrupted. I'd say that the aboleth's slime is definitely a corrupting influence, because it's actually changing him and not simply attacking him the way a poison does. Maybe I'm not making much sense, but it makes sense with the flavor a paladin to be immune to the slime.

Makes great sense to me, actually. Well put.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Deitus 04-24-05, 11:49 AM	Hey there, Recentlythere was an encounter with an aboleth,which brought up a discussion about wether the slime affliction is a disease. which would make the paladin immune to the affliction. Right now the general consensus is that it is not a disease, so the paladin is now clear and slimey. A condition which the paladin finds distasteful. Just looking for some outside input, either way. Thanks Deitus
Wyrd Bearer 04-24-05, 12:23 PM	Well, technically, there is nothing in the Aboleth's profile saying that the slime is a disease, it's only an affliction, so it would only affect evil creatures, because its a holy disease.... oh wait stops mocking the moronic afflictions outlined in BoED But seriously, it doesn't specifically say it is a disease and it has no incubation period, which supports it not being a disease. However, during the transformation, it can be stopped by remove disease, so why didn't the paladin just cure his/herself before it was too late?
Deitus 04-24-05, 01:23 PM	Hey there The point that it's not a disease, but can be cure by a "remove Disease" spell/ ability is the problem in this small situation. The Paladin, and the rest of the group for that matter never really got to the Curing part as the session ended onthe discussion of the disease issue. Plus I think that the Paladin missed the fact he possessed remove Disease While the affliction was talking about the need for cure Disease. Oh well. The disease will be taken care of assoon as tonights session begins, but I bet the complaining about the issue will take a few extra minutes. Thanks Deitus
Wyrd Bearer 04-24-05, 01:54 PM	Hey there The point that it's not a disease, but can be cure by a "remove Disease" spell/ ability is the problem in this small situation. The Paladin, and the rest of the group for that matter never really got to the Curing part as the session ended onthe discussion of the disease issue. Plus I think that the Paladin missed the fact he possessed remove Disease While the affliction was talking about the need for cure Disease. Oh well. The disease will be taken care of assoon as tonights session begins, but I bet the complaining about the issue will take a few extra minutes. Thanks Deitus Well heck, there are several things that can be taken care of with remove disease but aren't diseases themselves. Take a look at the vrock's spore ability. Its not a disease, but treating it as such with magic will take care of it. The important thing here is that while the paladin isn't immune to the slime, as long as he uses his remove disease ability within the 1d4+1 minutes it takes for him to completely transform, he'll be fine. After than, he'll need the cleric to cast a heal spell on him.
nightwing 04-24-05, 04:48 PM	A long time ago, I was playing a paladin whose party encountered a body infested with rot-grubs. The DM ruled that the paladin would be immune to them (because of the "can be killed by cure disease" thing). I picked them up and put them in an empty jar (or potion vial or something) and kept them as pets for a while. Then we encountered a drake or something like that a while later and I threw the jar into its mouth. It was pretty cool. I'm not sure the DM made the right call, but it was pretty fun to play! Today, I'd say that doesn't work, but what the heck, it's just a game. Do whatever enhances the "funness" of your game. cheers!
Khalarak Ironclaw 04-25-05, 10:26 AM	I think of it this way: the paladin's immunity to disease is a manifestation of his divine purity; his body cannot be corrupted. I'd say that the aboleth's slime is definitely a corrupting influence, because it's actually changing him and not simply attacking him the way a poison does. Maybe I'm not making much sense, but it makes sense with the flavor a paladin to be immune to the slime.
Nuntius128 04-25-05, 04:26 PM	I think of it this way: the paladin's immunity to disease is a manifestation of his divine purity; his body cannot be corrupted. I'd say that the aboleth's slime is definitely a corrupting influence, because it's actually changing him and not simply attacking him the way a poison does. Maybe I'm not making much sense, but it makes sense with the flavor a paladin to be immune to the slime. Makes great sense to me, actually. Well put.