About a succubus... [Archive] - Wizards Community

About a succubus... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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XeoNite
04-25-05, 12:13 PM It would be awesome if someone could help me out with this. Using the succubus progression from SS and had a question come up about the lesser and greater powers. Specifically what is the DC calculated on, upon checking the MM it would seem that it is 10+int mod+power level, but I can't seem to find anything to confirm this 100%, so that's question one.

The second question is in reference to spell focus feat, can it be applied to her powers for the +2DC bonus, and more specifically again, does it apply broadly ie: to lesser powers, or to a specific power under them ie: suggestion.

Thanks in advance.
Azatoth
04-25-05, 12:27 PM It would be awesome if someone could help me out with this. Using the succubus progression from SS and had a question come up about the lesser and greater powers. Specifically what is the DC calculated on, upon checking the MM it would seem that it is 10+int mod+power level, but I can't seem to find anything to confirm this 100%, so that's question one.

The second question is in reference to spell focus feat, can it be applied to her powers for the +2DC bonus, and more specifically again, does it apply broadly ie: to lesser powers, or to a specific power under them ie: suggestion.

Thanks in advance.

Outsiders use CHA for the RCs of their powers.

It only applies to a single power. Getting this is not really usefull, considering the massive CHA of Succubi. Instead look at the feat that allows you to improve a spell-like ability to a supernatural one. This would make your Charm Monster ability immune to SR and dispel attempts. :D

I am playing an Incubus myself and look forward to it. (lvl 6 right now).
The Painter
04-25-05, 02:50 PM The save DC for monsters effects is 10 + 1/2 HD + Cha or Con Mod. THe succubus's powers are Cha based so there ya go.
XeoNite
04-25-05, 02:59 PM Thanks for the answers so far, we've gotten ahold of someone who has the 3.5 monster manual and that has pretty much answered all questions, it is 10+spell level+cha mod by the way, which is a change from 3.0... then again I noticed a few other things different from 3.0
Borris
04-25-05, 03:03 PM Taken from the Monster Manual, page 315.

The saving throw (if any) against a spell-like ability is 10 + the level of the spell the ability resembles or duplicates + the creature's Cha modifier.

The saving throw (if any) against a supernatural ability is 10 + 1/2 the creature's HD + the creature's ability modifier (usually Charisma).
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Drat! Looks like you found the answer youself while I was typing this.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
XeoNite 04-25-05, 12:13 PM	It would be awesome if someone could help me out with this. Using the succubus progression from SS and had a question come up about the lesser and greater powers. Specifically what is the DC calculated on, upon checking the MM it would seem that it is 10+int mod+power level, but I can't seem to find anything to confirm this 100%, so that's question one. The second question is in reference to spell focus feat, can it be applied to her powers for the +2DC bonus, and more specifically again, does it apply broadly ie: to lesser powers, or to a specific power under them ie: suggestion. Thanks in advance.
Azatoth 04-25-05, 12:27 PM	It would be awesome if someone could help me out with this. Using the succubus progression from SS and had a question come up about the lesser and greater powers. Specifically what is the DC calculated on, upon checking the MM it would seem that it is 10+int mod+power level, but I can't seem to find anything to confirm this 100%, so that's question one. The second question is in reference to spell focus feat, can it be applied to her powers for the +2DC bonus, and more specifically again, does it apply broadly ie: to lesser powers, or to a specific power under them ie: suggestion. Thanks in advance. Outsiders use CHA for the RCs of their powers. It only applies to a single power. Getting this is not really usefull, considering the massive CHA of Succubi. Instead look at the feat that allows you to improve a spell-like ability to a supernatural one. This would make your Charm Monster ability immune to SR and dispel attempts. :D I am playing an Incubus myself and look forward to it. (lvl 6 right now).
The Painter 04-25-05, 02:50 PM	The save DC for monsters effects is 10 + 1/2 HD + Cha or Con Mod. THe succubus's powers are Cha based so there ya go.
XeoNite 04-25-05, 02:59 PM	Thanks for the answers so far, we've gotten ahold of someone who has the 3.5 monster manual and that has pretty much answered all questions, it is 10+spell level+cha mod by the way, which is a change from 3.0... then again I noticed a few other things different from 3.0
Borris 04-25-05, 03:03 PM	Taken from the Monster Manual, page 315. The saving throw (if any) against a spell-like ability is 10 + the level of the spell the ability resembles or duplicates + the creature's Cha modifier. The saving throw (if any) against a supernatural ability is 10 + 1/2 the creature's HD + the creature's ability modifier (usually Charisma). _____ Drat! Looks like you found the answer youself while I was typing this.