About MMF wild shape to Spell Weaver (MM2) cast spell problem. Can Anyone help? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Tiamates

06-20-05, 10:40 AM
Hi, I want to confirm something about MMF/Druid cast spell in whld shape.
1) It seem "M" & "Focus" type spell components cannot be use without Nature spell feat due to when wild shaped "M" & "Focus" type components will meld into new form and non-function, and Shifter's Speech can only provide "V" type components. Can a Master of many forms cast "S" type spell without Nature spell feat?
2)Similar question, if a druid wild shape to a monkey, can a monkey cast "S" type spell with a "Silence Spell Metamagic feat" but without "Nature Spell feat"?
3)If now the druid become a horse, can I do as question 2?
4)Since Spell Weaver's Chromatic disk need to be charged each night when in monster form (that is a real monster not being summoned or wild shaped from MMF), is a Spell Weaver's Chromatic disk fully charged (10 spell level) when it just wild shape from MMF? :confused:
Is Chromatic Disk an magic item? :D
Gurthoron

06-20-05, 12:39 PM
You have to remember that while wild shaping you do not get any supernatural abilities, spell-like abilities, or spells from the creature you turn into. Becoming a Spell Weaver would just give you a bunch of arms and a crappy stat line.

As for your questions, from my memory you need Natural spell or whatever to be able to cast spells while wild shaped. Period.So the first 3 wouldn't work.

If you wildshaped into a Spell Weaver you would not get the disc because its a magic item that they make, not something they inherently are born with. The chromatic disc would be fully charged by a spell weaver staying in his base form, and would stay charged even if a spellweaver wildshaped. However, your disc would usually blend with your form and be unusable.
Tiamates

06-20-05, 03:05 PM
Since Shifter's Speech (EX) an ability for MMF that will let the player speak ability in any form include cast "V" spell. I think it work.
But the "S" component make me feel confused since Spell Weaver also have 6 hands. Monkey also have 2 hand, even a horse also have "limbs". (Although I think not work in horse. :rolleyes: ) From Polymorphing - part2 said:
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You retain your spellcasting abilities, but your assumed form might limit what you can do.

You can use spells with verbal components only if you have retained the ability to speak. You can use somatic and material components only if your assumed form has limbs capable of dealing with them. ________________________________________ _________________________
Due to these, 1~3 question appear. Can anyone told me can I use "VS" spell without "Nature Spell feat" ? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Tiamates

06-21-05, 04:34 AM
Can anyone help? :raincloud :surrender