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Ogmug

04-04-06, 05:12 PM
Ok, am gonna open myself up here so be gentle!

I have a campaign where I have a specific monster created by a specialized spell. The monsters stat block is as follows:
CR:??? Tiny Aberration (Tanar`ri); HD 1/2d8-5 (Aberration) ; hp 2; Init -3; Spd 40, Climb 30; AC:12 (Flatfooted:12 Touch:12); Atk -3 base melee, -1 base ranged; -3/-8 (1-5, Bite; 1); -3 (1, Swarm); SA: Ability Drain (Ex) , (Su) , Sonic Screech (Su) ; AL CE; SV Fort -3, Ref -1, Will -3; STR 1, DEX 4, CON 1, INT 1, WIS 1, CHA 1.
Skills: Climb -1, Hide +5, Jump -1, Move Silently +1.
Feats: Swarmfighting

Without getting too heavy into the details of the creatures (i fear they may be more "mature" than this board is designed for), what I need is a creature that can:

fight as a swarm (or mob), of 10-15
When 10 or more present, the constant whining, crying, etc imposes a -1 to all to hit, saves, and skills (basically Bane)

Do not do much damage on thier own, or withstand much on thier own, but when in larger groups are formidable.

Can cause con damage (1pt)

have a DR of 2/cold iron or lawful

They need to be a challenge when in numbers to a party of about 4th, but singly should be weak. Any ideas for abilities/feats and appropriate CR?
Spike_Fightwicky

04-04-06, 06:03 PM
Ok, am gonna open myself up here so be gentle!

I have a campaign where I have a specific monster created by a specialized spell. The monsters stat block is as follows:
CR:??? Tiny Aberration (Tanar`ri); HD 1/2d8-5 (Aberration) ; hp 2; Init -3; Spd 40, Climb 30; AC:12 (Flatfooted:12 Touch:12); Atk -3 base melee, -1 base ranged; -3/-8 (1-5, Bite; 1); -3 (1, Swarm); SA: Ability Drain (Ex) , (Su) , Sonic Screech (Su) ; AL CE; SV Fort -3, Ref -1, Will -3; STR 1, DEX 4, CON 1, INT 1, WIS 1, CHA 1.
Skills: Climb -1, Hide +5, Jump -1, Move Silently +1.
Feats: Swarmfighting

Without getting too heavy into the details of the creatures (i fear they may be more "mature" than this board is designed for), what I need is a creature that can:

fight as a swarm (or mob), of 10-15
When 10 or more present, the constant whining, crying, etc imposes a -1 to all to hit, saves, and skills (basically Bane)

Do not do much damage on thier own, or withstand much on thier own, but when in larger groups are formidable.

Can cause con damage (1pt)

have a DR of 2/cold iron or lawful

They need to be a challenge when in numbers to a party of about 4th, but singly should be weak. Any ideas for abilities/feats and appropriate CR?

Too mature for the WotC board? Now I'm curious :crazy:

I think these critters might best be made into a creature with the "Swarm" subtype. It's the main way to get really weak and tiny creatures up in CR (look at the Rat swarm and Bat swarm. You'll find that it's alot like a single rat or bat as far as stats are concerned). You could make these guys into a CR 4 swarm without much trouble. Also, about their CON scores. A con of 1 means that the entire race is prone to poison, disease, and all manners of unhealth. Look at a rat. It's a tiny one hit dice creature, yet it still has 10 con. You may want to adjust it just in case. There's my thoughts.
Ogmug

04-04-06, 06:11 PM
ok

well, they are a product of my sick twisted mind, watching too many movies like slither, and the old ghoulies..


They are stolen fetus, hence the name "unborn" for the creature, with a forced possession by dretches (the spell that I am designing would allow forced possession by stronger demons, but the demonologist that is responsible wasn't strong enough before she went mad). Think babies, that can walk with needle like teeth instead of gums, etc. Totally mad, etc. No regard for themselves (they are being cowed by a stronger demon), etc. Also since they are aberrations and demons, they aren't prone to disease i don't think. (i can't recall)