Post/Author/DateTime	Post
maloca 03-17-04, 02:13 AM	On Saturday I had a situation. A huge air elemental attacked our party and I was wondering if this attack would be legal. The air elemental won initiative and was 10' away from the leader as he walked into a room. The air elemental started a whirlwind attack and moved through the party members square. This caused the party member to have to make two REF saves, one for damage and one for being picked up by the elemental. He failed the first and passed the second so he took damage but stayed in his square. Since the whirlwind attack causes a REF save when the air elemental moves through the square it moved back through the square again. Since the air elemental does not provoke an attack of opportunity when doing this it was not attacked. Now the leader had to make another REF save to prevent damage and to prevent being picked up. The air elemental did this tactic until its move was completed. Now was this a legal form of attack? Since it can basically cause a character to have to make multiple REF per round.
Ogre4Hire 03-17-04, 07:49 PM	No, only a creature with a Gaze Attack that is actively gazing at you can force multiple saves from the same effect in a single round. A moving whirlwinding air elemental or a creature with a trample attack can only affect any given target once in a round.
maloca 03-18-04, 01:34 AM	Thanks, that makes it a bit safer for the characters otherwise the air elemental could trash the party!
Ogre4Hire 03-18-04, 01:30 PM	Originally posted by maloca Thanks, that makes it a bit safer for the characters otherwise the air elemental could trash the party! And that's the entire reason behind it. If it were otherwise, a Large or bigger Air Elemental would be able to inflict a ludacris amount of damage to a PC; far in excess of any other creature its challenge rating.:looloo: