Altering the undead [Archive] - Wizards Community

Altering the undead [Archive] - Wizards Community

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vebor
08-15-04, 11:53 PM This topic is about taking advantage of the undeads lack of a metabolism to alter their body in all sorts of ways, and the game affects of such an altering.

Example: Im a low level necromancer, who moonlights as a smith. I animate 10 zombies or so, and coat their undead flesh in metal (mithral, lets say, and with joints and the like so they can move). Coming out of certain portions of this, I have blades and spikes on the metal, in an attempt to make them more of a challenge for the adventuring bastards who keep on thwarting me. What would the affects be, and is it a feasable idea?
Lord Nat
08-16-04, 12:04 AM I'd have it as Armor that they can't take off.
Use the same rules for a suit of armor of the same type you want to use and then add in the cost of what ever spikes you want (Rule for spikes are in the PHB)
vebor
08-16-04, 12:10 AM Thanks. Now, for the second, eviler idea. Undead Symbiotic Bacteria.

I figured these thing would be like feats for undead.

Examples.

Restorative Slime:The undeads decaying body plays home to a mass of ooze that restores the undeads body. Granting him fast healing 2, but requiring him to eat like a living person.

Consuming Slime:This slime uses undead such as zombies primarily as a means to spread to their primary prey, living hosts. When the undead atacks an opponent, they need to make a fortitude save (dc 15), or contract this disease (1d6/2d6 con).
IceFractal
08-16-04, 12:10 AM Yeh, it seems like it would be "integrated armor", sort of. There should be some advantage from it being directly bonded to their bones, so maybe treat it as somewhere from chainmail to full plate, depending on how thick it was, have it count as a size lighter and have 2 less ACP and 2 higher max Dex, and maybe grant some DR (with mithral, say DR 1/- with medium armor and DR 2/- with heavy, and it stacks with existing DR). If you made it adamantine instead it'd grant DR 2/- or DR 4/-, but not have the reduction to ACP or the boost to max Dex. Steel would be -1 ACP, +1 Max Dex, No DR for medium, DR 1/- for heavy.
Starmage21
08-16-04, 12:48 AM since you dont have polymorph any object you cant polymorph their bones into something else (then again, theyre immune because their undead, but there are other spells like Stone Bones and Iron Bones).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
vebor 08-15-04, 11:53 PM	This topic is about taking advantage of the undeads lack of a metabolism to alter their body in all sorts of ways, and the game affects of such an altering. Example: Im a low level necromancer, who moonlights as a smith. I animate 10 zombies or so, and coat their undead flesh in metal (mithral, lets say, and with joints and the like so they can move). Coming out of certain portions of this, I have blades and spikes on the metal, in an attempt to make them more of a challenge for the adventuring bastards who keep on thwarting me. What would the affects be, and is it a feasable idea?
Lord Nat 08-16-04, 12:04 AM	I'd have it as Armor that they can't take off. Use the same rules for a suit of armor of the same type you want to use and then add in the cost of what ever spikes you want (Rule for spikes are in the PHB)
vebor 08-16-04, 12:10 AM	Thanks. Now, for the second, eviler idea. Undead Symbiotic Bacteria. I figured these thing would be like feats for undead. Examples. Restorative Slime:The undeads decaying body plays home to a mass of ooze that restores the undeads body. Granting him fast healing 2, but requiring him to eat like a living person. Consuming Slime:This slime uses undead such as zombies primarily as a means to spread to their primary prey, living hosts. When the undead atacks an opponent, they need to make a fortitude save (dc 15), or contract this disease (1d6/2d6 con).
IceFractal 08-16-04, 12:10 AM	Yeh, it seems like it would be "integrated armor", sort of. There should be some advantage from it being directly bonded to their bones, so maybe treat it as somewhere from chainmail to full plate, depending on how thick it was, have it count as a size lighter and have 2 less ACP and 2 higher max Dex, and maybe grant some DR (with mithral, say DR 1/- with medium armor and DR 2/- with heavy, and it stacks with existing DR). If you made it adamantine instead it'd grant DR 2/- or DR 4/-, but not have the reduction to ACP or the boost to max Dex. Steel would be -1 ACP, +1 Max Dex, No DR for medium, DR 1/- for heavy.
Starmage21 08-16-04, 12:48 AM	since you dont have polymorph any object you cant polymorph their bones into something else (then again, theyre immune because their undead, but there are other spells like Stone Bones and Iron Bones).