Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Elemental 07-30-04, 08:19 PM	....and it looks like this. (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/bloodt.htm) Just a handy visual tool. Not an exact match--mainly the axe rather than a sword, but enough to be a scary mother nonetheless.
green_yawgmoth 07-30-04, 08:50 PM	Neat. :) http://img30.photobucket.com/albums/v91/yawgmoth/kittyjig.gif
dhaga 07-30-04, 09:30 PM	ooOOOOoo. Very nice :)
Ehlana 07-30-04, 09:39 PM	Ooh. Pretty picture.
Phrennzy 07-30-04, 09:52 PM	DM: "You go round the corner, and see a Balor...and it looks like this." Me: "I voluntarily fail the save and s:censored:t my pants."
Big_Nose 07-30-04, 09:53 PM	I see I'm not the only 40k fan around here... I can't believe I never made the connection between Bloodthirsters and Balors. :sad:
The Colonel 07-31-04, 12:05 AM	Or the fact that they are both knocked off from Tolkein?
obrysii 07-31-04, 10:56 AM	I always thought Balors looked just like Balrogs...so I would describe them as looking just like from the movie (which is what I've always thought a Balrog should look like anyway).
Sildatorak 07-31-04, 05:38 PM	I think that the balrog from the movie is a little bit to much shadow-stuff to be a balor. Though it is pretty close to what I imagined the balrog to look like. I have a tough time with Balors, though, I've been forever tainted by the horrid picture in the 2e MM. Also, 40k rocks! I just wish I had the money and time to support yet another gaming hobby. I miss my old chaos army.
Daemeon_Blackheart 07-31-04, 11:47 PM	Also, 40k rocks! I just wish I had the money and time to support yet another gaming hobby. I miss my old chaos army. Rock on dude. 40k is da bomb. Anywho I think the bloodthiser would be a great representaiton of the balor but the new model is way to big to be a balor though. I was thinking of creating aspects of the chaos gods you know? Anyway I can pull that off?
ImmortalBlueMage 08-01-04, 02:53 AM	Yep, that's a nice looking mini alright. Too bad that when you actually buy one it won't look like that, it'll just be a pile of unpainted plastic parts that you paid a ton of money for and then had to do all the hard work yourself. Just buy an Aspect of Orcus. Not as groovy looking, but it'll save you time and money.
The GOP Dragon 08-01-04, 03:26 AM	Originally posted by obrysii I always thought Balors looked just like Balrogs...so I would describe them as looking just like from the movie (which is what I've always thought a Balrog should look like anyway). Well, I bet that the people who made D&D at the beginning probably got a lot of ideas from Tolkein's novels and other things like that. Balor and Balrog aren't to far off... Anyway, me likes the mini.:drool: :drool: :drool: . Although, my group uses old Lego figures as much as the minis, nowadays.
guru7892 08-01-04, 09:47 PM	Originally posted by Phrennzy DM: "You go round the corner, and see a Balor...and it looks like this." Me: "I voluntarily fail the save and s:censored:t my pants." DM: "You go round the corner, and see a Balor...and it looks like this." Me: the devils went that way! no wait your a devil, umm... did i say devil i ment demons.... yeah, *cough* DONT EAT ME *cough* -=5 miuntes latter=- me:ok, so you wheren't involed in the blood war in anyway today... well in that case it was a paliden, you know those demons and devils and palidens all look the same these days... *akward silence* ... so hows the weather... -=3 hours, 4 kegs and 2 bottles of whisky=- me: sho i shhaid to the king, AND my namesh reco shwave... -=the next morning=- me:boy i never thought i could- hey who invited the balo- wait how did i get here, who drank all my whisky, that was for the king you know... -=2 seconds after the blaor wakes up=- me:RUN FOR IT PEOPLE!!! oh and nice demon pic.... thatsh what thish topic ish about right?
DudeMan101 08-01-04, 11:31 PM	Having played Diablo before reading The Lord of The Rings, I pictured the Balrog like the Balrogs from Diablo. Which is basicly like the one in the movie, without the being-on-fire part.
Ssussunriyh 08-02-04, 12:59 AM	DM: "You go round the corner, and see a Balor...and it looks like this..." "Run away! Run away!!" "Egad! I've just soiled my armor..."
Tevish Szat 08-02-04, 02:05 AM	Originally posted by The GOP Dragon Well, I bet that the people who made D&D at the beginning probably got a lot of ideas from Tolkein's novels and other things like that. Balor and Balrog aren't to far off... Anyway, me likes the mini.:drool: :drool: :drool: . Although, my group uses old Lego figures as much as the minis, nowadays. Weren't they even called balrogs until they got cracked down upon by copyrights along with ents and hobbits? (treants and halflings)? I remember hearing something about that?
obrysii 08-02-04, 10:46 AM	Originally posted by Tevish Szat Weren't they even called balrogs until they got cracked down upon by copyrights along with ents and hobbits? (treants and halflings)? I remember hearing something about that? I've heard that, too...so probably.
Temroc 08-02-04, 10:55 AM	Originally posted by The GOP Dragon Although, my group uses old Lego figures as much as the minis, nowadays. When playing the Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil game, we couldn't find a mini suitable enough for Imix (50ft tall humanoid made entirely of flame wielding a Colossal Greatsword), so we used a Spawn figure instead... but made him a lego throne to sit on before we attacked him.
Shifting Master 08-02-04, 11:10 AM	Their appearance is similar to that of the balrog, but I beleive that Balor was some sort of evil being in Irish folklore. I'm not an expert, but that's the name resource.
Dackad 08-02-04, 06:30 PM	Originally posted by obrysii I've heard that, too...so probably. True. Balors were once called balrogs before the Tolkien estate cracked down on 'em. Originally posted by Shifting Master Their appearance is similar to that of the balrog, but I beleive that Balor was some sort of evil being in Irish folklore. I'm not an expert, but that's the name resource. Balor was an Irish god with one-eye I believe.
Jager 10-21-04, 11:34 PM	too bad he's styrene and not resin or metal. and ~$200
Black Jack Davey 10-22-04, 12:09 AM	Oh well. Still looks cool.
Count Arioch the 28th 10-22-04, 01:27 AM	too bad he's styrene and not resin or metal. and ~$200 Good god, glad I'm not into warhammer then. How can they justify 200$ for a stupid plastic figure you gotta paint and assmemble yourself?
Shemeska the Marauder 10-22-04, 02:29 PM	Good god, glad I'm not into warhammer then. How can they justify 200$ for a stupid plastic figure you gotta paint and assmemble yourself? Gullible players w/ money? http://arcanofox.foxpaws.net/shemmyepic.gif
spasheridan 10-22-04, 06:19 PM	That's the forgeworld model. Games WOrkshop produces models that are pricey for sure, but of good quality. Forgeworld produces top end models like that Bloodthirster and others. SMaller runs, higher quality, and much higher prices. IIRC a Games Workshop model of a greater demon runs aroun $50, but you do still have to paint it and assemble it yourself. If yer wondering why, the answer is that more than half of the hobby for Warhammer games is the modeling. Assembling, posing, modifying models and then painting them. Most armies have 60+ models in them, you're looking at 100+ hours (in some cases that a huge +) of painting and modeling if you want it to look nice. Some people dig that kind of thing, like me!
Jager 10-22-04, 07:14 PM	yeah, but styrene for $228 i'd have to do a resin recast before I felt it was worth the effort. it's a really nice model, but pricing a figure based on how good it is in the game doesn't make much sense.
spasheridan 10-22-04, 07:38 PM	It's not the models power, it's the physical model's quality. THis is a huge model, easily 10 times as large as a standard marine model in the game. Like I said, GW sells bloodthirster models for about $50. THat's high, but all GW prices are high. Forgeworld produces extra models. This is a variant of the bloodthirster model, larger, more detail, very unique. In game it's the same as any other bloodthirster, it'll just look a lot better. As far as materials go... that's a whole ball of wax I'm not going to enter. Let's just say that each model that is made has certain economic considerations that determine what kind of a material will be used to make it. Mostly the technical questiosn of "will it be a usable product made out of material A" and "will it sell enough units to make the mold worth it". Material isn't the driving factor on price, the driving factor on price is cost of development and production and distribution.
devinmdp 10-22-04, 09:17 PM	When I played the original D&D back in the mid 70's, it was a balrog, and it was the most feared monster in the game. Bar none. It had, as I recall, 10HD (D6 back then) and an AC of 0 (which was unheard of back then). Whenever we saw the mighty balrog with perhaps 40 hit points and an AC of 0 we ran like crazy yelling "Aiyee, a balrog!". Yes, the Tolkien estate did clamp down on Tactical Studies Rules and the balrog was taken out, to be replaced by the Type VI demon that was essentially a balrog knock-off. The Type VI demon later became the balor in 2nd edition when the word demon was verboten and I guess "Type VI Tanar'ri" just didn't sound right. Devin
Grayson 10-23-04, 05:01 AM	Most armies have 60+ models in them, you're looking at 100+ hours (in some cases that a huge +) of painting and modeling if you want it to look nice. Some people dig that kind of thing, like me! And $300+ in models too, heh. I had a friend that got heavily into Warhammer 40k when we were in high school (We're talking like grade 8 here) - he had a rich dad, and he spent a truly obscene amount of money on the game. It wasn't uncommon for him to shell out $25+ for a single miniature (and that was in the mid 90's). I was going to get into it, until I saw the $120ish pricetag just on the starter set.
Azzedar 10-23-04, 08:10 PM	Well, I bet that the people who made D&D at the beginning probably got a lot of ideas from Tolkein's novels and other things like that. Balor and Balrog aren't to far off... Anyway, me likes the mini.:drool: :drool: :drool: . Although, my group uses old Lego figures as much as the minis, nowadays. Yes, Dungeons and Dragons was VERY strongly based on The Lord of the Rings. Go see my thread about both of them here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=324911). The Balor is also definitely based off of the Balrog. The shadow aspect was taken out mostly to maintain some originality, and to not put all the eggs of DnD into one monster (note all the other "shadow" type monsters) I have never heard of DnD being nailed for copyright infringement based on The Lord of the Rings....especially since many other things that made their debut in LoTR are used widely (Orcs, for example...and Halflings, since that is what all other races called the Hobbits)
Korone 10-23-04, 08:15 PM	"You go round the corner, and see a Balor.... And ..say hi?