Archon template needs help [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Revencher

03-06-08, 05:31 PM
I am trying to make a template for a trumpet archon.
it says its a +8 lvl adj but what r the stat, skill, base attack, saves bonuesses?
and how many HP would it start with?
i see that the hound starts with 6HD, so does the trumpet start with 8HD?

this is off the suject but
why is 1/2 celestial more powerful and have a higher lvl adjustment then celestial?
Dead_Weasel

03-06-08, 09:18 PM
The way effective character level (ECL) works is that a monster can be played as a character of X level, where X is the creature's monstrous HD + its LA. For example, a trumpet archon is the equivalent of a 20th-level character, and a hound archon the equivalent of an 11th-level character. Class levels are added normally after this. This system is quite problematic and has seen a great deal of criticism, but no proposed replacement that I have seen works much better.

The Half-Celestial template represents a creature that is literally half-celestial (or half-divine) and can only be applied to an intelligent creature; the Celestial Creature template represents non-humanoid creatures that simply reside on upper planes and therefore contain/exhibit/represent some small portion of that plane's virtue; they are not, in fact, celestials themselves.