Armor on a flesh golem? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Armor on a flesh golem? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
MoldieOldie
04-27-05, 05:00 PM Is there anything in the rules that would prevent someone from putting armor on a flesh golem?
Nuntius128
04-27-05, 06:24 PM Proficiency
Borris
04-27-05, 07:44 PM Non-proficiency doesn't prevent you from using the armor, it only means you'll get the armor check penalty on attack rolls and all skill checks that involve moving, such as Ride.
MoldieOldie
04-28-05, 01:18 PM And the armor check penalty is lowered for masterwork or mithral armor, so a flesh golem could wear leather, masterwork studded leather or a mithral chain shirt at no penalty. I guess there is nothing that prevents that.
Nuntius128
04-28-05, 03:44 PM Yeah, I know proficiency doesn't keep you from wearing it. But how often do you see anyone without proficiency wearing armor? Its easy enough to come by.
MoldieOldie
04-28-05, 04:49 PM But how often do you see anyone without proficiency wearing armor?

All the time. I see a lot of wizards with masterwork studded leather or mithral chain shirts.
Borris
04-28-05, 06:30 PM All the time. I see a lot of wizards with masterwork studded leather or mithral chain shirts.
Those don't seem like very good ideas, since they give arcane spell failure chances of 15% and 10% respectively.

However, I've yet to see a wizard without a mithral buckler. It leaves your hand free for somatic componants, and you can still hold a weapon in the other hand and keep threatening surrounding squares. Unless you really want to fight with a two-handed weapon, there's no reason not to do it.
Hammerhead
04-28-05, 06:32 PM How about crafting armor on to a flesh golem's body?
Borris
04-28-05, 07:33 PM I don't think you can craft armor on a creature. And even if you could, there would still be an armor check penalty.

But just give your flesh golem a +2 mithral chain shirt. If you can't see the difference, truet me, your players will. This might even be worth a +1 to CR.
Solipsisto
04-28-05, 08:00 PM But would a creature with a high natural AC bonus, which represents the toughness of the creature's hide, really benefit from wearing studded leather armor? (A flesh golem has a +10 natural AC bonus and DR 5/adamantine.) In game mechanics perhaps it would, but it doesn't seem very logical.

The rules however, say you can do it.
cwslyclgh
04-29-05, 08:00 PM But would a creature with a high natural AC bonus, which represents the toughness of the creature's hide, really benefit from wearing studded leather armor?

uhmmm yes... why wouldn't it... added protection is still added protection, and the studded leather is just one more layer that needs to be penetrated.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
MoldieOldie 04-27-05, 05:00 PM	Is there anything in the rules that would prevent someone from putting armor on a flesh golem?
Nuntius128 04-27-05, 06:24 PM	Proficiency
Borris 04-27-05, 07:44 PM	Non-proficiency doesn't prevent you from using the armor, it only means you'll get the armor check penalty on attack rolls and all skill checks that involve moving, such as Ride.
MoldieOldie 04-28-05, 01:18 PM	And the armor check penalty is lowered for masterwork or mithral armor, so a flesh golem could wear leather, masterwork studded leather or a mithral chain shirt at no penalty. I guess there is nothing that prevents that.
Nuntius128 04-28-05, 03:44 PM	Yeah, I know proficiency doesn't keep you from wearing it. But how often do you see anyone without proficiency wearing armor? Its easy enough to come by.
MoldieOldie 04-28-05, 04:49 PM	But how often do you see anyone without proficiency wearing armor? All the time. I see a lot of wizards with masterwork studded leather or mithral chain shirts.
Borris 04-28-05, 06:30 PM	All the time. I see a lot of wizards with masterwork studded leather or mithral chain shirts. Those don't seem like very good ideas, since they give arcane spell failure chances of 15% and 10% respectively. However, I've yet to see a wizard without a mithral buckler. It leaves your hand free for somatic componants, and you can still hold a weapon in the other hand and keep threatening surrounding squares. Unless you really want to fight with a two-handed weapon, there's no reason not to do it.
Hammerhead 04-28-05, 06:32 PM	How about crafting armor on to a flesh golem's body?
Borris 04-28-05, 07:33 PM	I don't think you can craft armor on a creature. And even if you could, there would still be an armor check penalty. But just give your flesh golem a +2 mithral chain shirt. If you can't see the difference, truet me, your players will. This might even be worth a +1 to CR.
Solipsisto 04-28-05, 08:00 PM	But would a creature with a high natural AC bonus, which represents the toughness of the creature's hide, really benefit from wearing studded leather armor? (A flesh golem has a +10 natural AC bonus and DR 5/adamantine.) In game mechanics perhaps it would, but it doesn't seem very logical. The rules however, say you can do it.
cwslyclgh 04-29-05, 08:00 PM	But would a creature with a high natural AC bonus, which represents the toughness of the creature's hide, really benefit from wearing studded leather armor? uhmmm yes... why wouldn't it... added protection is still added protection, and the studded leather is just one more layer that needs to be penetrated.