Attack bonusses for monsters [Archive] - Wizards Community

Attack bonusses for monsters [Archive] - Wizards Community

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squishycube
04-30-04, 10:59 AM I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but a search gave no dice (too many results)

My question is the following:
How are the attack bonusses for monsters calculated when they have multple weapons.

It seems easy, but let me explain with the example of the ape.

The regular ape as a base attack of +3 and 21 (+5) str. thus resulting in a +8 bonus to attacks. But the monster manual states he gets only a +7 on his claw attacks, and a +2 on bite (which is 5 less, because it is a second attack, i guess..)
Where does this -1 penalty derrive from. And furthermore, if the ape would advance so much that it would get +6/+1 base attack, how many attacks of each (claw & bite) would it get? and how high would the attack bonusses be?
UZI
04-30-04, 12:22 PM The regular ape has a -1 because he is large. A small creature has a +1.
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht
04-30-04, 07:06 PM Creatures never gain iterative attacks with their natural weapons.
nevick
05-01-04, 10:39 AM Yeah. monsters never get multiple attacks with a natural attack on a full round action. they get 1 with each though. The primary natural attack is at full bonus. if the monster has 2 primary natural attacks it gets 2 at full bonus. The secondary attack(s) are made with -5. If the monster has the monster feat. multi attack, it only gets -2 penalty on secondary natural weapons =P.

However, monsters get multiple attacks with manufactured weapons.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
squishycube 04-30-04, 10:59 AM	I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but a search gave no dice (too many results) My question is the following: How are the attack bonusses for monsters calculated when they have multple weapons. It seems easy, but let me explain with the example of the ape. The regular ape as a base attack of +3 and 21 (+5) str. thus resulting in a +8 bonus to attacks. But the monster manual states he gets only a +7 on his claw attacks, and a +2 on bite (which is 5 less, because it is a second attack, i guess..) Where does this -1 penalty derrive from. And furthermore, if the ape would advance so much that it would get +6/+1 base attack, how many attacks of each (claw & bite) would it get? and how high would the attack bonusses be?
UZI 04-30-04, 12:22 PM	The regular ape has a -1 because he is large. A small creature has a +1.
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 04-30-04, 07:06 PM	Creatures never gain iterative attacks with their natural weapons.
nevick 05-01-04, 10:39 AM	Yeah. monsters never get multiple attacks with a natural attack on a full round action. they get 1 with each though. The primary natural attack is at full bonus. if the monster has 2 primary natural attacks it gets 2 at full bonus. The secondary attack(s) are made with -5. If the monster has the monster feat. multi attack, it only gets -2 penalty on secondary natural weapons =P. However, monsters get multiple attacks with manufactured weapons.