Balor +22 Lvl ADj? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Balor +22 Lvl ADj? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Caitiri
11-18-04, 11:28 AM using the Estimate rules in savage species would a +22 level adjustment seem ok for a balor?

Oh um... just so people dont freak out its not going to be played a a PC in a real campaign...

My DnD group decided to Have a few Player Vs Player Matches just to have some fun and he challenged two of us to make 100 ECL's and pit them against each other.

Its meant to be incredibly epic in other words.
Starmage21
11-18-04, 11:38 AM +22 level adjustment would mean a Balor straight from the book is level 42, which might not be correct. The pit fiend is only a +18 level adjustment I think, and the balor has less powers, but more HD. Id say it would be closer to 18-20.
Caitiri
11-18-04, 11:44 AM Ok then split the difference and go with 20 it seems resonable to me
Thank you for pointing out pit fiends LVL Adj
obrysii
11-18-04, 11:55 AM My DnD group decided to Have a few Player Vs Player Matches just to have some fun and he challenged two of us to make 100 ECL's and pit them against each other.

Ohhh....how about playing a Great Wyrm Pyroclastic Dragon? ECL 50 or so, raise con as much as possible to raise the breath weapon DC up...then just disinigrate them!

Of course, I'm not terribly familiar with the magic items available at such high level, so it is very possible that there is something that makes you immune to disinigration. If that's the case, a Great Wyrm Gold Dragon would be a great race to be as in a ECL 100 match (for most of the same reasons as the Pyroclastic Dragon).
wtfpwned
11-21-04, 04:37 AM GAHHH, I hate this about ALL of the monster books, gahhh.

Why dont they bother to include ALL LA's...regardless of how stupid a monster would be to play.

A balor would have to be higher then 20. Its a CR 20 monster. It seems with the higher lvl monsters its ECL is its CR + 4-8
feargrant
11-21-04, 12:43 PM Well I have a nice little tactic since I picked up the Warcraft III books. You see the Warcraft Naga females can have multiple arms, each set adds +1 to level adjustment to their original +1, so that fighter with multiweapon fighting. When the character reaches epic, perfect multiweapon fighting. So I currently have one with a +4 level adjustment and is a first level fighter with scimitars. Monsters add some nice roleplaying elements, very much so when when you have four sets of arms and scimitars.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Caitiri 11-18-04, 11:28 AM	using the Estimate rules in savage species would a +22 level adjustment seem ok for a balor? Oh um... just so people dont freak out its not going to be played a a PC in a real campaign... My DnD group decided to Have a few Player Vs Player Matches just to have some fun and he challenged two of us to make 100 ECL's and pit them against each other. Its meant to be incredibly epic in other words.
Starmage21 11-18-04, 11:38 AM	+22 level adjustment would mean a Balor straight from the book is level 42, which might not be correct. The pit fiend is only a +18 level adjustment I think, and the balor has less powers, but more HD. Id say it would be closer to 18-20.
Caitiri 11-18-04, 11:44 AM	Ok then split the difference and go with 20 it seems resonable to me Thank you for pointing out pit fiends LVL Adj
obrysii 11-18-04, 11:55 AM	My DnD group decided to Have a few Player Vs Player Matches just to have some fun and he challenged two of us to make 100 ECL's and pit them against each other. Ohhh....how about playing a Great Wyrm Pyroclastic Dragon? ECL 50 or so, raise con as much as possible to raise the breath weapon DC up...then just disinigrate them! Of course, I'm not terribly familiar with the magic items available at such high level, so it is very possible that there is something that makes you immune to disinigration. If that's the case, a Great Wyrm Gold Dragon would be a great race to be as in a ECL 100 match (for most of the same reasons as the Pyroclastic Dragon).
wtfpwned 11-21-04, 04:37 AM	GAHHH, I hate this about ALL of the monster books, gahhh. Why dont they bother to include ALL LA's...regardless of how stupid a monster would be to play. A balor would have to be higher then 20. Its a CR 20 monster. It seems with the higher lvl monsters its ECL is its CR + 4-8
feargrant 11-21-04, 12:43 PM	Well I have a nice little tactic since I picked up the Warcraft III books. You see the Warcraft Naga females can have multiple arms, each set adds +1 to level adjustment to their original +1, so that fighter with multiweapon fighting. When the character reaches epic, perfect multiweapon fighting. So I currently have one with a +4 level adjustment and is a first level fighter with scimitars. Monsters add some nice roleplaying elements, very much so when when you have four sets of arms and scimitars.