Balor 3.0 vs. 3.5 [Archive] - Wizards Community

Balor 3.0 vs. 3.5 [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
UncleJack
01-15-08, 06:33 AM Hi,

Was Balor in 3.0 much weaker than what it is in 3.5?
I’m asking because im running adventure that was made for 3.0 and at some point there is a possibility that the players will have to fight Balor but I’m not sure if I can use 3.5 Balor directly or do I have to weaken it a bit. Was Balor CR20 monster in 3.0?

Thanks for your help.
runestar
01-15-08, 06:50 AM It was cr18 in 3.0, and even then, tend to be somewhat too weak, as it had too few HD, and its cr had been artificially inflated by all the dud SLAs it had.

If you are referring to CoTSQ, perhaps replace it with 2 horned devils (EL18) instead?
UncleJack
01-15-08, 06:54 AM It was cr18 in 3.0, and even then, tend to be somewhat too weak, as it had too few HD, and its cr had been artificially inflated by all the dud SLAs it had.

If you are referring to CoTSQ, perhaps replace it with 2 horned devils (EL18) instead?

I am ;)
Hmm... I soooo much just wanted to use Balor, but yeah maybe it's better to use two horned devils or some demons.
Thanks.
Evil DM Mk3
01-15-08, 08:51 AM If you want a Balor but feel the power level is off, edit the encounter. Make it injured, take away the weapons, add some terrain that might give the PCs and advantage and so on.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
UncleJack 01-15-08, 06:33 AM	Hi, Was Balor in 3.0 much weaker than what it is in 3.5? I’m asking because im running adventure that was made for 3.0 and at some point there is a possibility that the players will have to fight Balor but I’m not sure if I can use 3.5 Balor directly or do I have to weaken it a bit. Was Balor CR20 monster in 3.0? Thanks for your help.
runestar 01-15-08, 06:50 AM	It was cr18 in 3.0, and even then, tend to be somewhat too weak, as it had too few HD, and its cr had been artificially inflated by all the dud SLAs it had. If you are referring to CoTSQ, perhaps replace it with 2 horned devils (EL18) instead?
UncleJack 01-15-08, 06:54 AM	It was cr18 in 3.0, and even then, tend to be somewhat too weak, as it had too few HD, and its cr had been artificially inflated by all the dud SLAs it had. If you are referring to CoTSQ, perhaps replace it with 2 horned devils (EL18) instead? I am ;) Hmm... I soooo much just wanted to use Balor, but yeah maybe it's better to use two horned devils or some demons. Thanks.
Evil DM Mk3 01-15-08, 08:51 AM	If you want a Balor but feel the power level is off, edit the encounter. Make it injured, take away the weapons, add some terrain that might give the PCs and advantage and so on.