Balor Errors [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Centauri

07-06-06, 10:05 AM
The entry for the Balor in the SRD and my copy of the Monster Manual has some errors. I think I have them corrected, but I'd like help making sure:

"Attack: +1 vorpal longsword +33 melee (2d6+8/19–20)"

+20 BAB, +12 Str (35), +1 Weapon Focus, +1 enhancement, -1 size = +33 so the attack bonus is right, but

+12 Str, +1 enhancement = +13. The bonus to damage is way too low.

Okay, that's the easy part, just to get warmed up.

"Full Attack: +1 vorpal longsword +31/+26/+21/+16 melee (2d6+8/19–20) and +1 flaming whip +30/+25 melee (1d4+4 plus 1d6 fire plus entangle); or 2 slams +31 melee (1d10+7)"

If his attack with his regular attack is at +33, then with Two-Weapon Fighting and a one-handed weapon in his off hand, his attack bonus should drop by 4. So, his longsword attacks should be at +29/+24/+19/+14, right? Again, the damage bonus for the long sword attack should be +13. I really can't imagine where someone got 8, unless the Balor's strength used to be much different.

For the whip, the attack should be:

+20 BAB, +12 Str (35), +1 enhancement, -1 size, -4 two-weapon fighting = +28/+23. Correct? And with a damage bonus of +6 half Str, +1 enhancement = 7, yes?

Then there are the two slams. Both light weapons, and no Weapon Focus or enhancement so the attack bonus should be:

+20 BAB, +12 Str (35), -1 size, -2 two-weapon fighting = +29, I think.

I think the damage is wrong on the slams, too. I think it should be +12 for one and +6 for the other. Have I got that right? And only one attack each, because they're natural attacks, yes?

Thanks for the help. Once I'm sure I have this right, I can start trying to correct other entries. And then there are the skill blocks.... *shiver*

Also, since a Balor is "wreathed in flame" shouldn't he have a hard time hiding, as if affected by faerie fire or glitterdust?
runestar

07-06-06, 10:30 AM
There is something wrong with a balor's damage, namely because it was a result of careless copy and pasting from 3.0. Thus, the extra damage from its improved str score was not factored in. It's not convenient for me to double-check its stats right now, so you will have to get someone else... :P

Also, since a Balor is "wreathed in flame" shouldn't he have a hard time hiding, as if affected by faerie fire or glitterdust?
Well, it is flame-red in colour to start with... :D And if invis, maybe those flames are invis as well? :)