Barbed Devil Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Howie23

04-11-08, 02:24 AM
A barbed devil has Improved Grab and Impale. A Medium barbed devil can only Improve Grab creatures who are Small or smaller. Can it Impale a Medium critter via normal grapple?
DKase

04-11-08, 02:56 AM
If the only requirement for the impale ability is for the Barbed devil to successfully establish a grapple, then yes it can impale through the normal grapple rules (Move in, provoke the AoO, make the touch attack if AoO misses, etc.)

The Improved Grab is only a means to an end. It allows the creature to make an immediate grapple check on a successful hit while avoiding the AoO.
Howie23

04-11-08, 03:18 AM
If the only requirement for the impale ability is for the Barbed devil to successfully establish a grapple, then yes it can impale through the normal grapple rules (Move in, provoke the AoO, make the touch attack if AoO misses, etc.)

The Improved Grab is only a means to an end. It allows the creature to make an immediate grapple check on a successful hit while avoiding the AoO.

Yeah, I've thought so, too. I'm looking at the word "grab" in the Impale text now. I can picture it only being able to impale if big enough to pick up and slam on a spike, for instance.

David
Morrowner

04-11-08, 11:23 PM
Thats why you need to give it Powerful Build and a size increase and keep it CR 11.
:schemes: :evillaugh
Yes, that is quite nasty, for the record, particularily as a boss monster.