Beholder Anti-magic field ? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Beholder Anti-magic field ? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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chakrava
03-25-07, 11:14 AM I'm sure it's been asked before but couldn't find an already existing post:

When a beholder's main eye is open, throwing out a 150 cone of antimagic, can it still use eye rays outside of that area? I would have thought yes, but my DM was pretty sure it couldn't use any rays so long as the field was up. Frankly, after I said that "I think it can use rays outside the field" and he dis-agreed with me I felt I had met my "good-player" requirement and shut up! I'm all about being fair to the DM but a beholder is nasty enough without me helping the DM.
Return of the Flumph
03-25-07, 12:34 PM You were right. The DM was wrong.
Naderion
03-25-07, 12:38 PM As said, it's a cone, while the eye-stalks can face in each direction.
Masterfulks
03-25-07, 11:34 PM Does't the text say that the beholder can do both?
Kojiro James
03-26-07, 01:14 AM Your DM gimped his beholder encounter. Congratulate him for using a monster incorrectly.
Khan the Destroyer
03-26-07, 01:22 AM Meh. The wizard can activate his own Antimagic Field and then everyone can pelt the beholder with ranged attacks. Not much of an encounter if you ask me.
chakrava
03-27-07, 11:13 PM Your DM gimped his beholder encounter. Congratulate him for using a monster incorrectly.

He was just trying to scare us away from an area in game, which worked wonderfully (even without the proper eye-rays) since none of our characters had any idea what it was. Our party tried hiding behind buildings until about the 3rd one was disintegrated, then we ran, ran, ran.

Followed by:
*a few rounds of running and checking running rules*
Player: "So, it's a couple hundred feet away now right?"
DM: "Yes, it's hard to tell exactly but the creature is floating some 400-500 feet away."
Player: "So, my range increment with a compound bow is 110, 160 with far shot..." *20*

The arrow-to-the-eye for ~60 managed to scare the beholder off, we called it a draw.

But I figure I'll let my DM know how beholders really work, it's only fair he understands his monsters as well as we understand our characters.
Mith_The_Godling
03-27-07, 11:25 PM I'm sure it's been asked before but couldn't find an already existing post:

When a beholder's main eye is open, throwing out a 150 cone of antimagic, can it still use eye rays outside of that area? I would have thought yes, but my DM was pretty sure it couldn't use any rays so long as the field was up. Frankly, after I said that "I think it can use rays outside the field" and he dis-agreed with me I felt I had met my "good-player" requirement and shut up! I'm all about being fair to the DM but a beholder is nasty enough without me helping the DM.

The eye rays still work, granting that the rays themselves do not pass into the antimagic field. So, if your standing in the cone, it can't fire the rays at you because the magic is being surpressed. Now, if you are standing behind it while it has its antimagic field pointing in the other direction, it can get you.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
chakrava 03-25-07, 11:14 AM	I'm sure it's been asked before but couldn't find an already existing post: When a beholder's main eye is open, throwing out a 150 cone of antimagic, can it still use eye rays outside of that area? I would have thought yes, but my DM was pretty sure it couldn't use any rays so long as the field was up. Frankly, after I said that "I think it can use rays outside the field" and he dis-agreed with me I felt I had met my "good-player" requirement and shut up! I'm all about being fair to the DM but a beholder is nasty enough without me helping the DM.
Return of the Flumph 03-25-07, 12:34 PM	You were right. The DM was wrong.
Naderion 03-25-07, 12:38 PM	As said, it's a cone, while the eye-stalks can face in each direction.
Masterfulks 03-25-07, 11:34 PM	Does't the text say that the beholder can do both?
Kojiro James 03-26-07, 01:14 AM	Your DM gimped his beholder encounter. Congratulate him for using a monster incorrectly.
Khan the Destroyer 03-26-07, 01:22 AM	Meh. The wizard can activate his own Antimagic Field and then everyone can pelt the beholder with ranged attacks. Not much of an encounter if you ask me.
chakrava 03-27-07, 11:13 PM	Your DM gimped his beholder encounter. Congratulate him for using a monster incorrectly. He was just trying to scare us away from an area in game, which worked wonderfully (even without the proper eye-rays) since none of our characters had any idea what it was. Our party tried hiding behind buildings until about the 3rd one was disintegrated, then we ran, ran, ran. Followed by: a few rounds of running and checking running rules Player: "So, it's a couple hundred feet away now right?" DM: "Yes, it's hard to tell exactly but the creature is floating some 400-500 feet away." Player: "So, my range increment with a compound bow is 110, 160 with far shot..." 20 The arrow-to-the-eye for ~60 managed to scare the beholder off, we called it a draw. But I figure I'll let my DM know how beholders really work, it's only fair he understands his monsters as well as we understand our characters.
Mith_The_Godling 03-27-07, 11:25 PM	I'm sure it's been asked before but couldn't find an already existing post: When a beholder's main eye is open, throwing out a 150 cone of antimagic, can it still use eye rays outside of that area? I would have thought yes, but my DM was pretty sure it couldn't use any rays so long as the field was up. Frankly, after I said that "I think it can use rays outside the field" and he dis-agreed with me I felt I had met my "good-player" requirement and shut up! I'm all about being fair to the DM but a beholder is nasty enough without me helping the DM. The eye rays still work, granting that the rays themselves do not pass into the antimagic field. So, if your standing in the cone, it can't fire the rays at you because the magic is being surpressed. Now, if you are standing behind it while it has its antimagic field pointing in the other direction, it can get you.