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Lord Karsus 04-10-06, 12:31 AM	-What are your suggestions as to the best Evil Giants to rule an empire? -I'm not too fond about Fire Giants...Don't strike me as smart enough to really maintain an empire...
EldonG 04-10-06, 12:39 AM	Eldritch.
Hammerhead 04-10-06, 01:06 AM	Or shadow, or CE storm giants.
runestar 04-10-06, 01:16 AM	Ogre magi.
Lord Karsus 04-10-06, 08:39 AM	Eldritch. -Sounds intriguing. Where can I find the write-ups of Eldrich Giants? Or shadow, or CE storm giants. -I don't want Shadow Giants, simply because the theoretical Giant Empire would be above ground. I know Shadow Giants tend to frequent the Underdark. CE Storm Giants are a possibility, as they aren't as dim witted and/or slow as their Fire cousins. Ogre magi. -Although Orge Magi are going to be present, I don't want them in a ruling role. Their Giant-Kin, and I was this Empire to be dominated by True Giants.
Athanatos 04-10-06, 11:41 AM	Eldritch Giants are in the MMIII, which, sadly, isn't OGC.
Return of the Flumph 04-10-06, 07:58 PM	You could always give fire giants an intelligence boost.
Dracomortis 04-10-06, 08:20 PM	Death giants, also found in the aforementioned MMIII, always make a nice evil encounter.
Kresalak 04-10-06, 08:44 PM	You could have it be the ancient Death Giant Empire.
runestar 04-10-06, 10:08 PM	Titans? :P
rbingham2000 04-11-06, 06:01 PM	I'd use frost giants myself, set them up in the northern mountains, and make the leader a classed NPC, either using the Jarl in the MM or creating my own giant king. The stats in the Monster Manual are just a baseline. Besides, frost giants have a Norse mythic cool about them that I really like.
mvincent 04-11-06, 07:59 PM	Cloud giants This was even done in the "Against the Giants" adventure series. Their description also supports this.
Lord Karsus 04-11-06, 11:29 PM	I'd use frost giants myself, set them up in the northern mountains, and make the leader a classed NPC, either using the Jarl in the MM or creating my own giant king. The stats in the Monster Manual are just a baseline. Besides, frost giants have a Norse mythic cool about them that I really like. -Frost Giants would be perfect, but the area I have slated for the evil Giant empire is in a very temperate area. I would have a hard time explaining why the Frost Giants would permeinently settle down in a temperate area, when there is some perfectly fine real-estate availible in the arctic north.
DeathsAudit 04-12-06, 08:48 AM	Fire are LE so might have an empire. Do you need the leader to be giant as a Red Dragon, Devil (Feind of Possesson) or Mind Flayer could be the brains?
CzarGarrett 04-12-06, 09:04 AM	I think most true Giants other than Hill/Mountain and Formian Giants are a possibility for developing an Evil Empire. Sure, some are more likely than others, but they're still a chance. Also, the where has a lot to do with it. As mentioned about Frost Giants, I doubt they'd have much of an Empire in a tropical area. Nor would Sand Giants have an Empire in the swamps. Or are you working with the Giants first, then the surrounding area?
Morka 04-12-06, 10:39 AM	An Half-Giant Telepath 15th level. :evillaugh
Lord Karsus 04-13-06, 01:18 AM	I think most true Giants other than Hill/Mountain and Formian Giants are a possibility for developing an Evil Empire. Sure, some are more likely than others, but they're still a chance. Also, the where has a lot to do with it. As mentioned about Frost Giants, I doubt they'd have much of an Empire in a tropical area. Nor would Sand Giants have an Empire in the swamps. Or are you working with the Giants first, then the surrounding area? -The Empire would be locared in a temperate zone, hence my remark about the absence of Frost Giants in the area.