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Aceon

12-16-03, 11:08 PM
Hello there!
I hope someone on this board knows about monsters and can answer a little question I have.

I assume that a 12 headed Hydra with multiattack and combat reflexes and a super high dex can have at least 12 attacks of opportunity...

The creature has a 15' reach/threatens a 15' area...

I am told that each head attacks independently of the others...

I am also told that it can thusly derive at least 12 attacks of opportunity PER APPROACHING CHARACTER. ...

Meaning that if 10 characters attacked all at once then the Hydra would take 12 attacks of opportunity on each character, or a total of 12 X 10 or 120 attacks of opportunity ...and then still have it original 12 attacks on it's inititiative round.

I don't know.?...This seems kind of excessive to me.

Is my DM smoking crack here or should I just be a good camper and keep my muth shut?

Thanks in advance for the help.
Duskey

12-16-03, 11:53 PM
It's one AOO against every creature for every monsters. A single monster cannot AOO an approaching creature more than once.
shmeg

12-17-03, 01:44 AM
It's the same with PCs and NPCs. No matter how many AoO a being gets a round they can only attack a being once per turn (read: a character can only provoke a single AoO from a single other character per AoO provoking action).
El_Machinae

12-17-03, 04:37 AM
But the multi-headedness means that each head gets it's AoO where it wants. Meaning it could attack a single character 12 times if it wanted (ouch)

If it's got combat reflexes, then each head gets additional potential AoOs - however, those can only be used on separate characters. (ouch, still)
the_heart

12-17-03, 06:45 AM
having just read the SRD, the wording is a little vague.
Feats: A hydra’s Combat Reflexes feat allows it to use all its heads for attacks of opportunity.it specifically states that the hydra can use all of it's heads for AoO. it does not state that each head acts independantly with regard to AoO, or that the rules are in any other way altered.

so i would rule that it gets AoO equal to it's No. of heads + it's dex, but not No. of heads * dex. and it still wouldn't change the basic rule that you only get one AoO per action that provokes AoO.
Aceon

12-17-03, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by El_Machinae
But the multi-headedness means that each head gets it's AoO where it wants. Meaning it could attack a single character 12 times if it wanted (ouch)

If it's got combat reflexes, then each head gets additional potential AoOs - however, those can only be used on separate characters. (ouch, still)

Is this concept of "multi-headedness" or as my dm puts it, "each head may act independently of each other" ...is this concept specified somewhere in a rulebook in writing?

Specifically towards the number of AoO's on any one single target?

In one way that sort of breaks the rules.

But in another way, I guess you could look at it as 12 separate monsters, each occupying the same space and all with 15' reach. Typically two things can't occupy the same space, but this is somewhat offset by the lack of 12 different sets of hit points.