Build me a CR5 Kobold [Archive] - Wizards Community

Build me a CR5 Kobold [Archive] - Wizards Community

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sorites
02-07-07, 09:40 AM I'm looking for an interesting kobold warrior-type around CR5 for tonight's game. I didn't have time to draft a custom kobold leader for my band of dog-headed reptiles. If anyone has some stats to share or wants to throw together a cool armor/shield-using kobold for me, that would be AWESOME. :D
runestar
02-07-07, 09:50 AM I think a dragonwrought kobold warrior4/fighter4 is a cr5...

I once thought of slapping on the dracolich template...paralysing gaze and natural attacks are very devastating at this juncture...
Orchomenos
02-07-07, 10:09 AM What class do you use? A Paladin of Tyrany 5 would be great.
Cameron_DuModre
02-07-07, 10:12 AM Blackguard 5 or Battle sorcerer 5 (from Unearthed Arcana)
NerdNumber1
02-07-07, 10:20 AM Half-dragon, and dragon bloodlines are always nice (kobolds like to emphasize their draconic heritige, it makes them feel more important. Chinese emporors claimed draconic heritage too). Also, sorceror power is connected to dragons, and a good mount always looks impresive (dire weasles are common, but a little dragon blood mixed in would set it apart). Kobolds love dragon blood so the leader should have quite a bit. I once accidentally sprung a half dragon kobold on a lvl1-2 group and it killed the fighter in one breath attack.
NerdNumber1
02-07-07, 10:23 AM If he doesn't have too much dragon blood, give him some fun dragon-like effects (elixer of fire breathing).
sorites
02-07-07, 12:15 PM Dragonwrought sounds cool. What book is that in? Is it a template? Can it be added post-birth (or is it an inherited thing, like half-dragon)?

I'm digging on the idea of a dire weasel mount too. Sounds cool.

I don't want to go the sorcerer route with this guy 'cause he is the leader and I want him to be a warrior who uses metal armor, shield, and weapons. But I do like the idea of using magic items (a la elixir of fire breathing) to give him a dragon flavor. Any other draconic-style magic items you could suggest?
elondir
02-07-07, 12:32 PM Sorry, I just can't resist...

Divine minion sorcerer 2/master of many forms 3 with a viper familiar...

:D Okay, got it out of my system... hope no harm was done :D
NerdNumber1
02-07-07, 04:01 PM Battle sorceror can have light armor (chain shirt or mitheral medium armor), gets prof with one one-handed or light martial weapon (lance can be used one handed when you're mounted so mabye that will work when mounted), babs are as cleric, and d8 hds, but you get less spells. Or, you can take a single sorc level so you can use wands and non-somatic component spells. In a battle of brute strength kobolds aren't the best bet. You need hit and run, ranged attacks, magic, dragons, numbers, or traps, preferably several or all of these. No full kobold will the strength to beat a like level warband in greatsword and full plate combat. Check out the bloodline rules in the SRD, you might get a couple of free bonuses.
Darth Sephiroth
02-07-07, 04:06 PM A Dragonwrought Kobold Battle Sorcerer can be really fun. Make sure to look through the Races of the Dragon Web Enhansements for variants to make Kobolds better.
Witch
02-07-07, 04:08 PM Sorry, I just can't resist...

Divine minion sorcerer 2/master of many forms 3 with a viper familiar...

:D Okay, got it out of my system... hope no harm was done :D

He asked CR 5. That's not CR 5.
UnrelentingHoror
02-07-07, 04:56 PM Kobold Aristocrat 7, blackguard 1? That could be pretty cool. The necissary ranks in hide combined with his small size could give him a chance of an initial surprise round on the party. Giving him an adamantite warhammer might also let him use that surprise to make good use of both the surprise and the sunder feat if ya get my drift ;)
Add in a few first level warior kobold minions to the ambush to keep the party busy and you have yourself an encounter truly worthy of the kobold reputation for weasily ambushes(add sprinkling of small side tunnels, traps, murder holes, etc. as needed):devil:
NerdNumber1
02-07-07, 05:22 PM The more dragon blood in a kobold the cooler it is (as an individual), and 9 out of 10 *random dragon eats a kobold* I mean all kobolds agree. The only question is if the dragon blood gives magic or longer claws (or both). I would not suggest a full fighter build for a kobold, even a half dragon one. A light, quick matial build, ranged fighter, or light magic fiighter.
Prince Vine
02-07-07, 05:27 PM Kobold Despot (LE Paladin variant, Dragon #312) 5
LE
Strength 12 (+1)
Dexterity 13 (+1)
Constitution 11 (+0)
Intelligence 12 (+1)
Wisdom 7 (-2)
Charisma 14 (+2)
Size: Small
Total Hit Points: 28
Speed: 20 feet [armor]
Armor Class: 23 = 10 +8 [full plate] +2 [heavy wooden] +1 [dexterity] +1 [small] +1 [kobold]
Touch AC: 12
Flat-footed: 22
Initiative modifier: +1 = +1 [dexterity]
Saves:
Fortitude save: +6 = 4 +2 [divine grace]
Reflex save: +4 = 1 [base] +1 [dexterity] +2 [divine grace]
Will save: +1 = 1 [base] -2 [wisdom] +2 [divine grace]
Languages: Common Draconic Undercommon
[B]Basic Combat Equipment:
Heavy Pick [1d4, crit x4, 3 lb., one-handed, piercing]
Full plate armor [heavy; +8 AC; max dex +1; check penalty -6; 25 lb.]
Heavy Wooden Shield [+2 AC; check penalty -1; hardness 5; hp 15; 5 lb.]
Dire Weasel Mount
Feats:
Mounted Combat
Rideby Attack
Leadership (Bonus Feat)
Skills:
Ride 4 Ranks
Intimidate 8 Ranks
Bluff 8 Ranks

Class Features
Aura of Law; power of the aura equal to despot level
Detect Chaos; detect chaos at will
Smite Chaos 2/day; +2 to hit, +5 damage
Divine Grace; +2 (charisma to saves)
Slippery Mind; after a failed initial saving throw against an enchanment spell or effect attempt another saving throw one round later
Aura of Fear; immune to fear, all enemies within 10 suffer -4 morale penalty against fear effects
Indomitable Will; immune to charm subschool
Opression; turning check to sicken creatures with guilt and depression, creatures with 2 or less hit die are nauseated instead, chaotic creatures affected first, lawful last. This is a language-dependant mind-affecting ability.

Just an idea, feel free to play with him.
Icewraith
02-07-07, 06:27 PM Dire weasel mounted Kobold ftr 5- armor him up good, include a reach weapon and a shortbow or javelins, and see if you can get ride-by attack into his feat progression.

Include some warrior kobolds for melee, and at least two kobold warrior archers with either crossbows or composite short/longbows if they have a strength bonus.

The warrior kobolds should be wielding longspears or reach polearms, and should also have javelins.

You may want to include a 3rd level sorcerer as a back-up for the main kobold, include a mostly drained wand of magic missile and maybe a couple of potions for the spellcaster to use if needed (potion of fire breath sounds like a good idea)

If these guys are behaving apropriately for kobolds, they will have set up an ambush point, and will start off their suprise round with a volley of arrows and javelins, concentrating on less sturdy looking targets.

Anything in heavy armor will be magic missiled/scorching rayed and then ride-by-attacked and flanked in subsequent rounds while the archers attempt to finish off any remaining "softer" targets.
NerdNumber1
02-07-07, 06:49 PM A red dragon bloodline would only cost a lvl at most but would give a bit of flavor and some skill bonuses and possibly fire reisistance. Make the battle take place in an arena of his own design. Have high stone walls with balconies filled with his best kobold crossbowmen. Then make him ride-by attack on players. Make him a semi-magical part dragon. Kobolds need dragon blood!
KurenaiYami
02-07-07, 06:58 PM Dragonwrought sounds cool. What book is that in?
Races of the Dragon.

Is it a template?
Technically it's a feat only attainable at level one.

Can it be added post-birth (or is it an inherited thing, like half-dragon)?

Inherited.
runestar
02-07-07, 10:37 PM Here you go.:)
Dragonwrought Feat

Benefit: You are a dragon wrought kobold. Your type is dragon rather than humanoid, and you lose the dragonblood subtype. You retain all your other subtypes and your kobold racial traits. Your scales become tinted with a color that matches that of your draconic heritage. As a dragon, you are immune to magic sleep and paralysis effects. You have darkvision out to 60 feet and low-light vision. You gain a +2 racial bonus on the skill indicated for your draconic heritage on the table on page 103.
UnrelentingHoror
02-10-07, 12:44 AM Kobolds need dragon blood!

I disagree sir. Although the draconic theme is certainly a strong part of kobold uberness and dragon blood being a large part of the Kobold dragon-ey theme thing is a good thing. It is NOT needed and in fact can become quite cliche if every important kobold bad guy the party runs into is a half-dragon or dragon wrought. In my opinion the occasional simple xenophobic isolationalist warlord, tribal leader avenging a (possibly nonexistant and mythical) grudge on a nearby town, and even the kobold cleric devoted to tiamat, amongst others, do just fine without dragon blood.
NerdNumber1
02-10-07, 01:31 AM Thinking about there dragon heritage and encouraging those with more dragon in them makes kobolds feel important (RW humans have done the same thing) and not the phyaically weak, scaly shrimps that the casual observer would see. I think the elite should almost all have a few drops of dragon blood, even if it doesn't increase their abilities.
Kensan_Oni
02-10-07, 03:39 PM *ponder* I am feeling nice to my party, right? No 3rd party books?

CR 5 combat Kobold... I'd go with 2 Rang/3 Rog, and just let him at em...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
sorites 02-07-07, 09:40 AM	I'm looking for an interesting kobold warrior-type around CR5 for tonight's game. I didn't have time to draft a custom kobold leader for my band of dog-headed reptiles. If anyone has some stats to share or wants to throw together a cool armor/shield-using kobold for me, that would be AWESOME. :D
runestar 02-07-07, 09:50 AM	I think a dragonwrought kobold warrior4/fighter4 is a cr5... I once thought of slapping on the dracolich template...paralysing gaze and natural attacks are very devastating at this juncture...
Orchomenos 02-07-07, 10:09 AM	What class do you use? A Paladin of Tyrany 5 would be great.
Cameron_DuModre 02-07-07, 10:12 AM	Blackguard 5 or Battle sorcerer 5 (from Unearthed Arcana)
NerdNumber1 02-07-07, 10:20 AM	Half-dragon, and dragon bloodlines are always nice (kobolds like to emphasize their draconic heritige, it makes them feel more important. Chinese emporors claimed draconic heritage too). Also, sorceror power is connected to dragons, and a good mount always looks impresive (dire weasles are common, but a little dragon blood mixed in would set it apart). Kobolds love dragon blood so the leader should have quite a bit. I once accidentally sprung a half dragon kobold on a lvl1-2 group and it killed the fighter in one breath attack.
NerdNumber1 02-07-07, 10:23 AM	If he doesn't have too much dragon blood, give him some fun dragon-like effects (elixer of fire breathing).
sorites 02-07-07, 12:15 PM	Dragonwrought sounds cool. What book is that in? Is it a template? Can it be added post-birth (or is it an inherited thing, like half-dragon)? I'm digging on the idea of a dire weasel mount too. Sounds cool. I don't want to go the sorcerer route with this guy 'cause he is the leader and I want him to be a warrior who uses metal armor, shield, and weapons. But I do like the idea of using magic items (a la elixir of fire breathing) to give him a dragon flavor. Any other draconic-style magic items you could suggest?
elondir 02-07-07, 12:32 PM	Sorry, I just can't resist... Divine minion sorcerer 2/master of many forms 3 with a viper familiar... :D Okay, got it out of my system... hope no harm was done :D
NerdNumber1 02-07-07, 04:01 PM	Battle sorceror can have light armor (chain shirt or mitheral medium armor), gets prof with one one-handed or light martial weapon (lance can be used one handed when you're mounted so mabye that will work when mounted), babs are as cleric, and d8 hds, but you get less spells. Or, you can take a single sorc level so you can use wands and non-somatic component spells. In a battle of brute strength kobolds aren't the best bet. You need hit and run, ranged attacks, magic, dragons, numbers, or traps, preferably several or all of these. No full kobold will the strength to beat a like level warband in greatsword and full plate combat. Check out the bloodline rules in the SRD, you might get a couple of free bonuses.
Darth Sephiroth 02-07-07, 04:06 PM	A Dragonwrought Kobold Battle Sorcerer can be really fun. Make sure to look through the Races of the Dragon Web Enhansements for variants to make Kobolds better.
Witch 02-07-07, 04:08 PM	Sorry, I just can't resist... Divine minion sorcerer 2/master of many forms 3 with a viper familiar... :D Okay, got it out of my system... hope no harm was done :D He asked CR 5. That's not CR 5.
UnrelentingHoror 02-07-07, 04:56 PM	Kobold Aristocrat 7, blackguard 1? That could be pretty cool. The necissary ranks in hide combined with his small size could give him a chance of an initial surprise round on the party. Giving him an adamantite warhammer might also let him use that surprise to make good use of both the surprise and the sunder feat if ya get my drift ;) Add in a few first level warior kobold minions to the ambush to keep the party busy and you have yourself an encounter truly worthy of the kobold reputation for weasily ambushes(add sprinkling of small side tunnels, traps, murder holes, etc. as needed):devil:
NerdNumber1 02-07-07, 05:22 PM	The more dragon blood in a kobold the cooler it is (as an individual), and 9 out of 10 random dragon eats a kobold I mean all kobolds agree. The only question is if the dragon blood gives magic or longer claws (or both). I would not suggest a full fighter build for a kobold, even a half dragon one. A light, quick matial build, ranged fighter, or light magic fiighter.
Prince Vine 02-07-07, 05:27 PM	Kobold Despot (LE Paladin variant, Dragon #312) 5 LE Strength 12 (+1) Dexterity 13 (+1) Constitution 11 (+0) Intelligence 12 (+1) Wisdom 7 (-2) Charisma 14 (+2) Size: Small Total Hit Points: 28 Speed: 20 feet [armor] Armor Class: 23 = 10 +8 [full plate] +2 [heavy wooden] +1 [dexterity] +1 [small] +1 [kobold] Touch AC: 12 Flat-footed: 22 Initiative modifier: +1 = +1 [dexterity] Saves: Fortitude save: +6 = 4 +2 [divine grace] Reflex save: +4 = 1 [base] +1 [dexterity] +2 [divine grace] Will save: +1 = 1 [base] -2 [wisdom] +2 [divine grace] Languages: Common Draconic Undercommon [B]Basic Combat Equipment: Heavy Pick [1d4, crit x4, 3 lb., one-handed, piercing] Full plate armor [heavy; +8 AC; max dex +1; check penalty -6; 25 lb.] Heavy Wooden Shield [+2 AC; check penalty -1; hardness 5; hp 15; 5 lb.] Dire Weasel Mount Feats: Mounted Combat Rideby Attack Leadership (Bonus Feat) Skills: Ride 4 Ranks Intimidate 8 Ranks Bluff 8 Ranks Class Features Aura of Law; power of the aura equal to despot level Detect Chaos; detect chaos at will Smite Chaos 2/day; +2 to hit, +5 damage Divine Grace; +2 (charisma to saves) Slippery Mind; after a failed initial saving throw against an enchanment spell or effect attempt another saving throw one round later Aura of Fear; immune to fear, all enemies within 10 suffer -4 morale penalty against fear effects Indomitable Will; immune to charm subschool Opression; turning check to sicken creatures with guilt and depression, creatures with 2 or less hit die are nauseated instead, chaotic creatures affected first, lawful last. This is a language-dependant mind-affecting ability. Just an idea, feel free to play with him.
Icewraith 02-07-07, 06:27 PM	Dire weasel mounted Kobold ftr 5- armor him up good, include a reach weapon and a shortbow or javelins, and see if you can get ride-by attack into his feat progression. Include some warrior kobolds for melee, and at least two kobold warrior archers with either crossbows or composite short/longbows if they have a strength bonus. The warrior kobolds should be wielding longspears or reach polearms, and should also have javelins. You may want to include a 3rd level sorcerer as a back-up for the main kobold, include a mostly drained wand of magic missile and maybe a couple of potions for the spellcaster to use if needed (potion of fire breath sounds like a good idea) If these guys are behaving apropriately for kobolds, they will have set up an ambush point, and will start off their suprise round with a volley of arrows and javelins, concentrating on less sturdy looking targets. Anything in heavy armor will be magic missiled/scorching rayed and then ride-by-attacked and flanked in subsequent rounds while the archers attempt to finish off any remaining "softer" targets.
NerdNumber1 02-07-07, 06:49 PM	A red dragon bloodline would only cost a lvl at most but would give a bit of flavor and some skill bonuses and possibly fire reisistance. Make the battle take place in an arena of his own design. Have high stone walls with balconies filled with his best kobold crossbowmen. Then make him ride-by attack on players. Make him a semi-magical part dragon. Kobolds need dragon blood!
KurenaiYami 02-07-07, 06:58 PM	Dragonwrought sounds cool. What book is that in? Races of the Dragon. Is it a template? Technically it's a feat only attainable at level one. Can it be added post-birth (or is it an inherited thing, like half-dragon)? Inherited.
runestar 02-07-07, 10:37 PM	Here you go.:) Dragonwrought Feat Benefit: You are a dragon wrought kobold. Your type is dragon rather than humanoid, and you lose the dragonblood subtype. You retain all your other subtypes and your kobold racial traits. Your scales become tinted with a color that matches that of your draconic heritage. As a dragon, you are immune to magic sleep and paralysis effects. You have darkvision out to 60 feet and low-light vision. You gain a +2 racial bonus on the skill indicated for your draconic heritage on the table on page 103.
UnrelentingHoror 02-10-07, 12:44 AM	Kobolds need dragon blood! I disagree sir. Although the draconic theme is certainly a strong part of kobold uberness and dragon blood being a large part of the Kobold dragon-ey theme thing is a good thing. It is NOT needed and in fact can become quite cliche if every important kobold bad guy the party runs into is a half-dragon or dragon wrought. In my opinion the occasional simple xenophobic isolationalist warlord, tribal leader avenging a (possibly nonexistant and mythical) grudge on a nearby town, and even the kobold cleric devoted to tiamat, amongst others, do just fine without dragon blood.
NerdNumber1 02-10-07, 01:31 AM	Thinking about there dragon heritage and encouraging those with more dragon in them makes kobolds feel important (RW humans have done the same thing) and not the phyaically weak, scaly shrimps that the casual observer would see. I think the elite should almost all have a few drops of dragon blood, even if it doesn't increase their abilities.
Kensan_Oni 02-10-07, 03:39 PM	ponder I am feeling nice to my party, right? No 3rd party books? CR 5 combat Kobold... I'd go with 2 Rang/3 Rog, and just let him at em...