Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Rinian2 02-07-04, 01:12 AM	The effects of the barbarian's class ability of Rage are increased Strength and Constitution for an amount of time dependent on the Constitution bonus with exhaustion at the end. Ghosts (being insubstanial) have no Strength. Ghosts (also being undead) have no Constitution. I know that under the non-abilities section of the Monster Manual is says that you use Dexterity instead of Strength for creatures with no Strength, but does this add to damage as well as the attack roll? Under the Undead subtype, it mentions that they use another stat for Concentration rolls. I vaguely remember from 3E that you use Charisma, but is this right in 3.5E? My question is: What the heck happens when a barbarian ghost enters a state of Rage?
Blasphemus 02-07-04, 02:38 AM	Well, seeing as Rage is neither an attack roll nor a concentration check, and ghosts have neither strength nor constituiton, I would say a ghost would rage for three rounds gaining a +2 bonus on will saves and a -2 penalty to AC (along with the inability to use some of their skill, feats, ect.). So, if your ghost needs to boost his will save, he can take a penalty to his AC for one. On the plus side, he can't be fatigued afterward.;)
cwslyclgh 02-07-04, 03:07 AM	don't ghosts on the etherial plane have strength scores? in that case they would get the benifit when fighting chracters on the etherial plane...
Zendu 02-07-04, 06:51 AM	You whould assume they whould.....
Rinian2 02-14-04, 01:26 AM	How about a ghost barbarian with a ghost-touch weapon (I think that's the name of the quality that makes a weapon both ethereal and real at the same time) who doesn't become solid? If he rages, does he just get fatigued at the end of 3 rounds?
cwslyclgh 02-14-04, 04:08 PM	he can't get fatigued... with a ghost touch weapon he would get the bonus to strength as long as he stayed fully on the etherial plane, if he manifested and became inorporeal then he would lose the strength bonus.