Can a lich be a vampire as well? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can a lich be a vampire as well? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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EvilNewbie
08-13-04, 01:03 PM Suppose a character started out as a wizard became a vampire whose goal was to become a lich... is it possible? Savage Species says undead templates can't stack with other undead templates but it seems reasonable that a vampire can become a lich and how would the two stack?
Temroc
08-13-04, 01:19 PM Savage Species says undead templates can't stack with other undead templates

I believe it says that in the MM too. Therefore, I would say that a character can only become a lich after becoming a vampire if they kill themselves, get resurrected and then become a lich. Or mayhap build a phylactery and then lose the vampirism and gain the lichdom. A lich-vampire just doesn't work. But then, with Rule 0 you could do it, and just stack them normally, like you might a half-dragon celestial creature.
Not a monkey
08-13-04, 01:27 PM Well, if you do decide to override it, I suppose you could. Just remember to do more than add the CRs. Some of the powers will interact in unexpected ways once you begin to think about it.

Seriously, write it up and think about how you'd use such a character.

Otherwise, I'd rule that if the lich ceremony is successful, the vampire powers just fall away.

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EvilNewbie 08-13-04, 01:03 PM	Suppose a character started out as a wizard became a vampire whose goal was to become a lich... is it possible? Savage Species says undead templates can't stack with other undead templates but it seems reasonable that a vampire can become a lich and how would the two stack?
Temroc 08-13-04, 01:19 PM	Savage Species says undead templates can't stack with other undead templates I believe it says that in the MM too. Therefore, I would say that a character can only become a lich after becoming a vampire if they kill themselves, get resurrected and then become a lich. Or mayhap build a phylactery and then lose the vampirism and gain the lichdom. A lich-vampire just doesn't work. But then, with Rule 0 you could do it, and just stack them normally, like you might a half-dragon celestial creature.
Not a monkey 08-13-04, 01:27 PM	Well, if you do decide to override it, I suppose you could. Just remember to do more than add the CRs. Some of the powers will interact in unexpected ways once you begin to think about it. Seriously, write it up and think about how you'd use such a character. Otherwise, I'd rule that if the lich ceremony is successful, the vampire powers just fall away.