Can Succubus' Energy Drain be turned off? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can Succubus' Energy Drain be turned off? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Kanosint
04-01-07, 09:40 AM See topic.

Nowhere does it say they can voluntarily shut it down... That would make it terrible for Succubi to start any kind of relationship, no wonder they're evil o_O

Unless I'm hallucinating or just plain-out missing things... Cuz if this is true, I'm going to house-rule this... Poor critters... They just wanted a kiss, they can't help it that they suck you dry ^^;
spncrbrrtt
04-01-07, 10:12 AM well, I'm betting it can be. when you look at Elucida from the creature competition, it said she had an angelic lover, so unless he was somehow immune, life would suck. (bad pun.)

so I'm betting on yes, but not completely sure.
PhaedrusXY
04-01-07, 04:35 PM It's an attack. It requires a standard action to use. So it doesn't just happen "automatically".
CantripN
04-01-07, 05:46 PM It's an attack. It requires a standard action to use. So it doesn't just happen "automatically".

Any half-decent kiss takes effort. Nevermind the other method of using the ability...
Kanosint
04-01-07, 07:15 PM *Agrees wholeheartedly with CantripN*

A I'm pretty sure that, in the situation I'm planning to use, you're not even going to count in rounds ;3 But I'm not going to make this for the Mature forum, so I won't go on about that ;3
feartheinvinceblehamster
04-03-07, 05:49 PM Yeah, it can probably be turned off. It's probably a DM call, really.

Does the name of this thread sound kind of like a double entrende to anyone else, given the context?
KillerVole
04-03-07, 07:39 PM I imagine it can be, as low level succubi (from Savage Species) only have a certain number of uses per day. This implies that they can choose when to use it for those uses, and thus in general.
Kanosint
04-04-07, 06:19 PM Also, how 'Evil' would it be to use? And could I keep the Suggestion but leave to Energy Drain at bay? Would it be overpowered to do the latter?
KillerVole
04-04-07, 10:45 PM I think energy drain is negative energy, which is usually pretty evil. I don't know why you'd only want a suggestion to keep on kissing, but I don't see how it would be broken, as long as you aren't using it while your friends pound the unfortunate victim. I would say, just make any attack stop the suggestion train if no energy drain is in play. I'm still not quite sure of the purpose, though.
CantripN
04-05-07, 02:54 AM I think energy drain is negative energy, which is usually pretty evil. I don't know why you'd only want a suggestion to keep on kissing, but I don't see how it would be broken, as long as you aren't using it while your friends pound the unfortunate victim. I would say, just make any attack stop the suggestion train if no energy drain is in play. I'm still not quite sure of the purpose, though.

Purpose? How about: "Keep kissing me, you hot thing, you!".
Seduction is it's own reward.
Kanosint
04-05-07, 04:30 PM CantripN, I can only state, great minds think alike ;)
CantripN
04-05-07, 05:57 PM CantripN, I can only state, great minds think alike ;)

I think it's a matter of approach. There was this test I once took, that told you whether you were a Powergamer, Specialist, Tactician, Casual Gamer or some other type of gamer.

I scored as a Specialist, which rings true. It said I like things that are cool and awesome, such as ninjas and wizards. That also means I think of the coolness of everything, such as the inherent sex appeal of a Succubus, rather than her combat ability. Stats are NOT everything (though they DO matter)!
Thiez
04-05-07, 06:44 PM I think it's a matter of approach. There was this test I once took, that told you whether you were a Powergamer, Specialist, Tactician, Casual Gamer or some other type of gamer.

I scored as a Specialist, which rings true. It said I like things that are cool and awesome, such as ninjas and wizards. That also means I think of the coolness of everything, such as the inherent sex appeal of a Succubus, rather than her combat ability. Stats are NOT everything (though they DO matter)!

It's not the stats, it's how you use 'em?
KillerVole
04-05-07, 07:21 PM Purpose? How about: "Keep kissing me, you hot thing, you!".
Seduction is it's own reward.

That works, but since it doesn't have any in-game effect (besides tying up someone's attention) I can't imagine why it would be "broken". What I was getting at is, if something doesn't cause game balance issues, it's not broken.
NerdNumber1
04-06-07, 01:18 AM I have also wondered about the modivation of the succubus. Do they take pleasure in lust? Do they like the side-effects of draining someone? Do they want to kill? What would one do if it was traped on Isengard (sp?) (the plane with free ressurections)? (How much would someone pay for a night with such a demoness if they would come back good as new the next day? (outsider prostitution!?!))
Kanosint
04-06-07, 08:04 PM Well, seeing as I read the Liber Chaotica (Games Workshop, I know, but still), I think it's pretty much as varied as for people... But my Succubus? She enjoys the more affectionate part, kissing, hugging, etc. Of course, she's still a Demon in the sack, if you excuse the pun ;)

But yeah, CantripN, I agree with that POV, although usually I end up either vastly overpowered or vastly underpowered ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kanosint 04-01-07, 09:40 AM	See topic. Nowhere does it say they can voluntarily shut it down... That would make it terrible for Succubi to start any kind of relationship, no wonder they're evil o_O Unless I'm hallucinating or just plain-out missing things... Cuz if this is true, I'm going to house-rule this... Poor critters... They just wanted a kiss, they can't help it that they suck you dry ^^;
spncrbrrtt 04-01-07, 10:12 AM	well, I'm betting it can be. when you look at Elucida from the creature competition, it said she had an angelic lover, so unless he was somehow immune, life would suck. (bad pun.) so I'm betting on yes, but not completely sure.
PhaedrusXY 04-01-07, 04:35 PM	It's an attack. It requires a standard action to use. So it doesn't just happen "automatically".
CantripN 04-01-07, 05:46 PM	It's an attack. It requires a standard action to use. So it doesn't just happen "automatically". Any half-decent kiss takes effort. Nevermind the other method of using the ability...
Kanosint 04-01-07, 07:15 PM	Agrees wholeheartedly with CantripN A I'm pretty sure that, in the situation I'm planning to use, you're not even going to count in rounds ;3 But I'm not going to make this for the Mature forum, so I won't go on about that ;3
feartheinvinceblehamster 04-03-07, 05:49 PM	Yeah, it can probably be turned off. It's probably a DM call, really. Does the name of this thread sound kind of like a double entrende to anyone else, given the context?
KillerVole 04-03-07, 07:39 PM	I imagine it can be, as low level succubi (from Savage Species) only have a certain number of uses per day. This implies that they can choose when to use it for those uses, and thus in general.
Kanosint 04-04-07, 06:19 PM	Also, how 'Evil' would it be to use? And could I keep the Suggestion but leave to Energy Drain at bay? Would it be overpowered to do the latter?
KillerVole 04-04-07, 10:45 PM	I think energy drain is negative energy, which is usually pretty evil. I don't know why you'd only want a suggestion to keep on kissing, but I don't see how it would be broken, as long as you aren't using it while your friends pound the unfortunate victim. I would say, just make any attack stop the suggestion train if no energy drain is in play. I'm still not quite sure of the purpose, though.
CantripN 04-05-07, 02:54 AM	I think energy drain is negative energy, which is usually pretty evil. I don't know why you'd only want a suggestion to keep on kissing, but I don't see how it would be broken, as long as you aren't using it while your friends pound the unfortunate victim. I would say, just make any attack stop the suggestion train if no energy drain is in play. I'm still not quite sure of the purpose, though. Purpose? How about: "Keep kissing me, you hot thing, you!". Seduction is it's own reward.
Kanosint 04-05-07, 04:30 PM	CantripN, I can only state, great minds think alike ;)
CantripN 04-05-07, 05:57 PM	CantripN, I can only state, great minds think alike ;) I think it's a matter of approach. There was this test I once took, that told you whether you were a Powergamer, Specialist, Tactician, Casual Gamer or some other type of gamer. I scored as a Specialist, which rings true. It said I like things that are cool and awesome, such as ninjas and wizards. That also means I think of the coolness of everything, such as the inherent sex appeal of a Succubus, rather than her combat ability. Stats are NOT everything (though they DO matter)!
Thiez 04-05-07, 06:44 PM	I think it's a matter of approach. There was this test I once took, that told you whether you were a Powergamer, Specialist, Tactician, Casual Gamer or some other type of gamer. I scored as a Specialist, which rings true. It said I like things that are cool and awesome, such as ninjas and wizards. That also means I think of the coolness of everything, such as the inherent sex appeal of a Succubus, rather than her combat ability. Stats are NOT everything (though they DO matter)! It's not the stats, it's how you use 'em?
KillerVole 04-05-07, 07:21 PM	Purpose? How about: "Keep kissing me, you hot thing, you!". Seduction is it's own reward. That works, but since it doesn't have any in-game effect (besides tying up someone's attention) I can't imagine why it would be "broken". What I was getting at is, if something doesn't cause game balance issues, it's not broken.
NerdNumber1 04-06-07, 01:18 AM	I have also wondered about the modivation of the succubus. Do they take pleasure in lust? Do they like the side-effects of draining someone? Do they want to kill? What would one do if it was traped on Isengard (sp?) (the plane with free ressurections)? (How much would someone pay for a night with such a demoness if they would come back good as new the next day? (outsider prostitution!?!))
Kanosint 04-06-07, 08:04 PM	Well, seeing as I read the Liber Chaotica (Games Workshop, I know, but still), I think it's pretty much as varied as for people... But my Succubus? She enjoys the more affectionate part, kissing, hugging, etc. Of course, she's still a Demon in the sack, if you excuse the pun ;) But yeah, CantripN, I agree with that POV, although usually I end up either vastly overpowered or vastly underpowered ;)