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Ultima0071 01-21-07, 02:26 PM	Recently two of my friends made a business making and selling constructs. Because my large amount of money, I thought I'd buy a Prismatic Golem. So after a couple days I had finally obtained one! One problem though, if I use its attack and send a monster to another plain of existance, will I get the experience? If so, will I get it because my construct did it? Please Help :confused:
leather_book_wizard 01-21-07, 02:29 PM	I'm assuming you mean your friends characters are selling constructs.:) I believe the golem would get the XP.
I_am_an_undead 01-21-07, 02:37 PM	Well, I don't think a non-intelligent being (like, say, a golem...) can have XP. If it is true (I'm not 100% sure it is), you, as the golem's owner, should get the XP. After all, you sacrificed money and XP to have that little killing machine. :P
NerdNumber1 01-21-07, 02:43 PM	I'd say the owner (or who ever gave the order) gets the xp or at least a percentage. Think of it as a cross between a cohort and equipment. I'd have the DM rule based on how difficult the battle was.
Lyinginbedmon 01-21-07, 02:45 PM	A similar issue came up in my game when the Dread Necromancer wanted to know if his summoned undead got the XP or him, and similarly when his NPC longship crew did the same. I ruled that since the summoned undead were doing the killing under his dictated rule he got the XP, but because the crew were separate people with no real compulsion to do as he said they got the XP. In this case, the golem is taking the orders from you to do anything, so you would get the XP.
kinem 01-21-07, 09:26 PM	One problem though, if I use its attack and send a monster to another plain of existance, will I get the experience? If so, will I get it because my construct did it? You will get no XP for a battle you did not participate in. Unless your DM is an idiot. Of course, a lot of people are. If you cast a Monster Summoning spell in combat it is different; that is considered participating in the combat just like casting a fireball. But ordering a servant to go kill something definately does not count, as you are not in danger.
Insane Pixie 01-21-07, 10:45 PM	You will get no XP for a battle you did not participate in. Unless your DM is an idiot. Of course, a lot of people are. He asked the question under the specific circumstance that he ordered the attack. Aka, participating.
kinem 01-21-07, 11:08 PM	Well, if he's physically present at the battle and fighting in it alongside the golem, as Insane Pixie seems to be interpeting it, then he would get XP from the battle. But no more than if the golem had belonged to someone else, and no more than any other PC present.
Knute 01-22-07, 02:09 AM	Absolutely agree with Kenim, How can you learn if you are not participating. Imagine that you could get xp from an ordered combat -- where would it stop? Would the king get all the xp from the actions of his army? No I'm afraid ordering something to kill someone is not part of the battle. It takes place outside of combat and and is an action of complete safety. Since it offers very little potential for learning or risk it can win you no experience. Even if you lost your golem because you ordered it to do something stupid I don't imagine you'd get anything. Experience is not earned by people who do not enter combat. The actions of a henchman or construct have no bearing on whether a character was in combat to receive experience. my .02 K