Constructs with Intelligence - More than 1 Charisma? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Constructs with Intelligence - More than 1 Charisma? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Ozar
07-20-04, 02:47 PM Every construct with Intelligence I've seen has more than a single point of Charisma, whereas the ones with a nonability in Intelligence always seem to have just one point. Why is this?
Rocco Manitta
07-21-04, 09:47 AM A non inteligent creature cannot exert it's 'personality' or force of will upon someone else, thus, has no charisma.
Ozar
07-21-04, 01:29 PM They do have some Charisma, just not a whole lot - 1 point. They have to have at least one point in Charisma, because otherwise they would be an object.
Ssussunriyh
07-22-04, 12:47 AM From the Monster Manual:

Intelligence: Any creature that can think, learn, or remember has at least 1 point of Intelligence. A creature with no Intelligence score is mindless, an automaton operating on simple instincts or programmed instructions.

Wisdom: Any creature that can perceive its environment in any fashion has at least 1 point of Wisdom. Anything with no Wisdom score is an object, not a creature. Anything without a Wisdom score also has no Charisma score.

Charisma: Any creature capable of telling the difference between itself and things that are not itself has at least 1 point of Charisma. Anything with no Charisma score is an object, not a creature. Anything without a Charisma score also has no Wisdom score.

So, while a golem may have no Intelligence score, it must have both Wisdom and Charisma scores, so it can follow programmed instructions like "Stay in this room, and kill any creature that enters."
Ozar
07-22-04, 04:22 PM I'm trying to find out when to use 1 Charisma and when to use more, is all. Are there any constructs that have Intelligence but only 1 Charisma?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Ozar 07-20-04, 02:47 PM	Every construct with Intelligence I've seen has more than a single point of Charisma, whereas the ones with a nonability in Intelligence always seem to have just one point. Why is this?
Rocco Manitta 07-21-04, 09:47 AM	A non inteligent creature cannot exert it's 'personality' or force of will upon someone else, thus, has no charisma.
Ozar 07-21-04, 01:29 PM	They do have some Charisma, just not a whole lot - 1 point. They have to have at least one point in Charisma, because otherwise they would be an object.
Ssussunriyh 07-22-04, 12:47 AM	From the Monster Manual: Intelligence: Any creature that can think, learn, or remember has at least 1 point of Intelligence. A creature with no Intelligence score is mindless, an automaton operating on simple instincts or programmed instructions. Wisdom: Any creature that can perceive its environment in any fashion has at least 1 point of Wisdom. Anything with no Wisdom score is an object, not a creature. Anything without a Wisdom score also has no Charisma score. Charisma: Any creature capable of telling the difference between itself and things that are not itself has at least 1 point of Charisma. Anything with no Charisma score is an object, not a creature. Anything without a Charisma score also has no Wisdom score. So, while a golem may have no Intelligence score, it must have both Wisdom and Charisma scores, so it can follow programmed instructions like "Stay in this room, and kill any creature that enters."
Ozar 07-22-04, 04:22 PM	I'm trying to find out when to use 1 Charisma and when to use more, is all. Are there any constructs that have Intelligence but only 1 Charisma?