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jdcutcher 08-14-05, 08:37 PM	If an evil cleric controlls a Wraith, and the wraith kills a mortal... MM states that the mortal's soul would rise as a wraith in 1d4 rounds, under the control of the wraith.... sooooooooo If the cleric control's a wraith that control's a wraith, could the cleric go beyond the limit of what he might normally control? Same rule could apply to any undead that enslaves spawns I suppose.
Rohano 08-14-05, 09:24 PM	Minions of undead still count against the cleric's commanded HD of undead, as the cleric commands the undead's minions regularly, and the minion obeys the cleric. I think if you fail your command on the minion, the minion just becomes an indepentend undead (no longer following its parent), and the same goes for when you don't have enough HD left to control the minion. I think there was an article about this regarding vampires and evil clerics some time ago, but I'm not sure.
Algorithm_X 08-15-05, 12:35 AM	As with the leadership feat, a minion of your minion is his minion, not YOUR minion. (Ie nothing would stop them from being hostile attitude towards you, which I believe is a wraith‘s default attitude towards all living beings) Even if the your controled wraith commands them not to attack you their attitude will still be hostile, and woe should the link in the chain of command ever be severed, they'll descend on you with such fury that your character will still be twitching when he becomes their wraith slave. Of course while it works that would help form a legion of undead. It's a comprimise of risk vs power gained. At least if I was the DM running the campaign that is how I would interpret it. (note this is very cinematically correct ending for many BBEG)