Creating a Wererat Rogue [Archive] - Wizards Community

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SanRaal

06-09-07, 09:19 AM
I am really uncertain when it comes to creating a wererat with levels in rogue. Can someone give me a feedback regarding this stat block and tell me if it is wrong or right? Thanks.

Plague Rat Rogue CR 3

Human form
Human wererat male/female rogue 1
LE Medium humanoid
Init +1; Senses Listen +2 (alertness), Spot +2 (alertness)
Languages Chondathan, Common, Illuskan
AC 17, touch 11, flat-footed 16
Hp 9 (2 HD)
Fort +2 (2 base), Ref +5 (2+2 base +1 dex), Will +4 (2 base, +2 iron will)
Spd 30 ft. (6 squares)
Melee rapier +1 (1d6, 18-20/x2)
Ranged light crossbow +1 (1d8, 19-20/x2)
Base Atk +0 Grp +0
Abilities Str 10, Dex 12, Con 11, Int 13, Wis 11, Cha 8
SQ sneak attack +1d6, trap finding, curse of lycanthropy, alternate form (dire rat, human), low light vision, scent, rat empathy
Feats Alertness, Iron Will, Weapon Finesse, Combat Expertise, Improved Feint
Skills Bluff +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Climb +3 (3 ranks), Disable Device +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Disguise +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Gather Information +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Move Silently +5 (4 ranks, +1 dex), Open Lock +5 (4 ranks, 1 dex), Search +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Sense Motive +4 (4 ranks), Swim +0 , Tumble +5 (4 ranks, +1 dex)
Possessions bolts (10), buckler, light crossbow, rapier, studded leather armor (with symbol of Talona)

Dire Rat Form
Human wererat male/female rogue 1
LE Small humanoid
Init +4; Senses Listen +2 (alertness), Spot +2 (alertness)
Languages Chondathan, Common, Illuskan
AC 18 (+1 size, +4 dex, +3 natural), touch 14, flat-footed 14
Hp 9 (2 HD)
Fort +2 (2 base), Ref +8 (2+2 base +4 dex), Will +4 (2 base, +2 iron will)
Spd 40 ft. (8 squares)
Melee bite +5(+1 size, +4 dex) (1d4 plus disease)
Base Atk +0 Grp -4
Special Atk Curse of lycanthropy, disease
Abilities Str 10, Dex 18, Con 13, Int 13, Wis 11, Cha 8
SQ sneak attack +1d6, trap finding, curse of lycanthropy, alternate form (dire rat, human), damage reduction 10/silver, low light vision, scent, disease, rat empathy
Feats Alertness, Iron Will, Weapon Finesse, Combat Expertise, Improved Feint
Skills Bluff +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Climb +15(3 ranks, +8 racial, +4 dex), Disable Device +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Disguise +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Gather Information +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Move Silently +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex), Open Lock +8 (4 ranks, 4 dex), Search +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Sense Motive +4 (4 ranks), Swim +12 (4 dex, 8 racial), Tumble +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex)

Hybrid form
Human wererat male/female rogue 1
LE Medium humanoid
Init +4; Senses Listen +2 (alertness), Spot +2 (alertness)
Languages Chondathan, Common, Illuskan
AC 20, touch 14, flat-footed 16
Hp 9 (2 HD)
Fort +2 (2 base), Ref +8 (2+2 base +4 dex), Will +4 (2 base, +2 iron will)
Spd 30 ft. (6 squares)
Melee rapier +4 (1d6, 18-20/x2)
and Bite -1 (1d6 + disease)
Ranged light crossbow +4 (1d8, 19-20/x2)
Base Atk +0 Grp +0
Special Atk Curse of lycanthropy, disease
Abilities Str 10, Dex 18, Con 13, Int 13, Wis 11, Cha 8
SQ sneak attack +1d6, trap finding, curse of lycanthropy, alternate form (dire rat, human), damage reduction 10/silver, low light vision, scent, disease, rat empathy
Feats Alertness, Iron Will, Weapon Finesse, Combat Expertise, Improved Feint
Skills Bluff +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Climb +15(3 ranks, +8 racial, +4 dex), Disable Device +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Disguise +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Gather Information +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Move Silently +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex), Open Lock +8 (4 ranks, 4 dex), Search +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Sense Motive +4 (4 ranks), Swim +12 (4 dex, 8 racial), Tumble +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex)
Possessions bolts (10), buckler, light crossbow, rapier, studded leather armor (with symbol of Talona)
obrysii

06-09-07, 09:26 AM
Use the old format if you want people to comment. The new one might be better in combat, but whatever benefits it has there it loses for those attempting to critique and look for errors.
SanRaal

06-09-07, 10:36 AM
Here are the stat blocks in the old format. Thanks in advance.

Plague Rat Rogue CR 3
Wererat, Human form: male human wererat rogue 1; CR 3; medium humanoid; HD 1d6 plus 1d8+1; hp 9; Init +1 (+1 Dex); Spd 30 ft.; AC 17, touch 11, flat-footed 16 (+3 studded leather armor, +1 Dex, +2 natural armor); BAB +0; Grp +0; Atk +1 melee (1d6, rapier) (+0 BAB, +1 Dex); Full Atk: +1 melee (1d6, rapier) (+0 BAB, +1 Dex) or +1 ranged (1d8, light crossbow) (+0 BAB, +1 Dex; Space/Reach 5 ft./5 ft.; SA sneak attack +1d6; SQ trap finding, curse of lycanthropy, alternate form (dire rat, hybrid), low light vision, scent, rat empathy; AL LE; SV Fort +2, Ref +5, Will +4 (Dire rat F+2, R+2, W+2; Rogue F+0, R+2, W+0; Con +0, Dex +1, Wis +0, Iron Will); Str 10, Dex 12, Con 11, Int 13, Wis 11, Cha 8.
Skills and Feats: Bluff +3, Climb +3, Disable Device +5, Disguise +3, Gather Information +3, Move Silently +5, Open Lock +5, Search +5, Sense Motive +4, Swim +0 , Tumble +5; Alertness (wererat), Iron Will (wererat), Weapon Finesse (wererat), Combat Expertise (human), Improved Feint Feat 1st
Racial Traits: 1 extra feat at 1st level, 4 extra skill points at 1st and 1 extra skill point for each additional level
Possessions: money derived from DMG tables for NPC wealth —buckler 25, bolts(10) 1, light crossbow 35, rapier 20, studded leather armor (with symbol of Talona) 25, XXgp remaining wealth in coins.
Skills (Rogue): Bluff +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Climb +3 (3 ranks), Hide +5 (4 ranks, +1 dex), Disable Device +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Disguise +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Gather Information +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Move Silently +5 (4 ranks, +1 dex), Open Lock +5 (4 ranks, 1 dex), Search +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Sense Motive +4 (4 ranks), Swim +0 , Tumble +5 (4 ranks, +1 dex)= 43 (40 skill points rogue, 3 skill points dire rat spent on climb)
NOTE: Number of feats is derived as follows: 1 feat for human, 1 for 1st level, the rest are racial for wererats

Wererat, Dire Rat Form: male human wererat rogue 1; CR 3; small humanoid; HD 1d6 plus 1d8+1; hp 9; Init +4 (+4 Dex); Spd 40 ft.; AC 18, touch 14, flat-footed 14 (+4 Dex, +3 natural armor, +1 size); BAB +0; Grp -4; Atk +5 melee (1d4 plus disease, bite) (+0 BAB, +4 Dex, +1 size); Full Atk: +5 melee (1d4 plus disease, bite) (+0 BAB, +4 Dex, +1 size); Space/Reach 5 ft./5 ft.; SA Curse of lycanthropy, disease; SQ trap finding, curse of lycanthropy, alternate form (human form, hybrid), low light vision, scent, rat empathy, damage reduction 10/silver; AL LE; SV Fort +3, Ref +8, Will +4 (Dire rat F+2, R+2, W+2; Rogue F+0, R+2, W+0; Con +1, Dex +4, Wis +0, Iron Will); Str 10, Dex 18, Con 13, Int 13, Wis 11, Cha 8.
Skills and Feats Bluff +3, Climb +15, Hide +12, Disable Device +5, Disguise +3, Gather Information +3, Move Silently +8, Open Lock +8, Search +5, Sense Motive +4, Swim +12, Tumble +8; Alertness (wererat), Iron Will (wererat), Weapon Finesse (wererat), Combat Expertise (human), Improved Feint Feat 1st
Racial Traits:
Possessions: money derived from DMG tables for NPC wealth —buckler 25, bolts(10) 1, light crossbow 35, rapier 20, studded leather armor (with symbol of Talona) 25, XXgp remaining wealth in coins.
Skills (Rogue): Bluff +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Climb +15 (3 ranks, +4 dex, +8 racial), Hide +12 (4 ranks, +4 dex, +4 size), Disable Device +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Disguise +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Gather Information +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Move Silently +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex), Open Lock +8 (4 ranks, 4 dex), Search +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Sense Motive +4 (4 ranks), Swim +12 (+8 racial, +4 dex) , Tumble +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex)= 43 (40 skill points rogue, 3 skill points dire rat)
NOTE: Number of feats is derived as follows: 1 feat for human, 1 for 1st level, the rest are racial for wererats

Wererat, Hybrid Form: male human wererat rogue 1; CR 3; medium humanoid; HD 1d6 plus 1d8+1; hp 9; Init +4 (+4 Dex); Spd 30 ft.; AC 20, touch 14, flat-footed 16 (+4 Dex, +3 studded leather armor, +3 natural armor); BAB +0; Grp +0; Atk +4 melee (1d6, rapier) (+0 BAB, +4 Dex), +4 melee (1d6 plus disease, bite) (+0 BAB, +4 Dex); Full Atk: +4 melee (1d6, rapier) (+0 BAB, +4 Dex), -1 melee (1d4 plus disease, bite) (+0 BAB, +4 Dex, -5 second natural); Space/Reach 5 ft./5 ft.; SA Curse of lycanthropy, disease, sneak attack +1d6; SQ trap finding, curse of lycanthropy, alternate form (human form, dire rat), low light vision, scent, rat empathy, damage reduction 10/silver; AL LE; SV Fort +3, Ref +8, Will +4 (Dire rat F+2, R+2, W+2; Rogue F+0, R+2, W+0; Con +1, Dex +4, Wis +0, Iron Will); Str 10, Dex 18, Con 13, Int 13, Wis 11, Cha 8.
Skills and Feats Bluff +3, Climb +15, Hide +8, Disable Device +5, Disguise +3, Gather Information +3, Move Silently +8, Open Lock +8, Search +5, Sense Motive +4, Swim +12, Tumble +8; Alertness (wererat), Iron Will (wererat), Weapon Finesse (wererat), Combat Expertise (human), Improved Feint Feat 1st
Racial Traits: 1 extra feat at 1st level, 4 extra skill points at 1st and 1 extra skill point for each additional level; A wererat in rat or hybrid form uses its Dexterity modifier for Climb or Swim checks. It has a +8 racial bonus on Climb and Swim checks.
Possessions: money derived from DMG tables for NPC wealth —buckler 25, bolts(10) 1, light crossbow 35, rapier 20, studded leather armor (with symbol of Talona) 25, XXgp remaining wealth in coins.
Skills (Rogue): Bluff +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Climb +15 (3 ranks, +4 dex, +8 racial), Hide +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex), Disable Device +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Disguise +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Gather Information +3 (4 ranks, -1 cha), Move Silently +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex), Open Lock +8 (4 ranks, 4 dex), Search +5 (4 ranks, +1 int), Sense Motive +4 (4 ranks), Swim +12 (+8 racial, +4 dex) , Tumble +8 (4 ranks, +4 dex)= 43 (40 skill points rogue, 3 skill points dire rat)
NOTE: Number of feats is derived as follows: 1 feat for human, 1 for 1st level, the rest are racial for wererats
obrysii

06-09-07, 11:16 AM
Hrmph. I meant the old monster format. Not the old NPC format. :P

But. It looks about right. I mean, after all, you just took the Lycanthrope template and put it on a Human Rogue 1, right?
SanRaal

06-09-07, 11:24 AM
Yes. Glad it looks ok. Found an error now. I had forgotten the armor check penalty for the swim check on the hybrid form. Thanks for the feedbacks.