[Creature] Kenyan Mangrove Crab [Archive] - Wizards Community

[Creature] Kenyan Mangrove Crab [Archive] - Wizards Community

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RhynoD
09-17-07, 11:07 PM Hope this is the right place for this, I don't frequent the forums much.
So my roommates and I had an idea, hope you get it. So if you get the joke, all criticisms and opinions would be helpful.

[Updated to include rending armor and a slightly wider crit range]

Kenyan Mangrove Crab
Diminutive Animal
Hit Dice: 5d8+30 (54)
Initiative +8
Speed: 10ft. / Swim: 20 ft. / Burrow: 10ft.
Armor Class: 30 (+8 Dex, +8 natural, +4 size), Touch: 24, No flat-footed.
Base Attack/Grapple: +6/+18
Attack: Claw +14 melee (2d6+8) 19-20/x2
Full Attack: 2 claws +14 melee (2d6+8) 19-20/x2
Space/Reach: 1ft./0ft.
Special Attacks: Oli, Rend Armor
Special Qualities: Darkvision 60ft., Damage Reduction 10/magic, Frightful Presence
Saves: Fort +4, Ref +12, Will +4
Abilities: Str 27, Dex 26, Con 17, Int 4, Wis 10, Cha 15
Skills: Climb +12*, Hide +12, Intimidate +8, Jump +10, Listen +2**, Move Silently +8, Spot +2**, Swim +12*
(*Can always take 10, even when being rushed or in combat; **Racial +4 underwater)
Feats: Power Attack, Quicken, Improved Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Improved Sunder
Environment: Underground/Aquatic
Organization: Solitary
Challenge Rating: God knows?
Treasure: 1 "ration"
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: I dunno
Level Adjustment: -

This small cave demon has massive claws that look like they could rip armor apart.

The Kenyan Mangrove Crab is a small, gray or tan crab. It is usually found hiding under a rock waiting for prey to get close enough to attack. It attacks everything it encounters, regardless of size.

Combat
The Kenyan Mangrove Crab stays hidden until just before its prey comes within reach. It comes out of hiding, paralyzing its opponent with its frightful presense, then viciously attacking. It usually targets its enemy's eyes, blinding it to make further combat easier.
Frightful Presence: As with dragons, the KMC can frighten opponents with its mere presence. See the entry for dragons.
Oli: 1d6 rounds after it enters combat, the KMC uses Ghost Sounds (as the spell) as a spell-like ability. All creatures caught within 60 ft. must make a Will save, DC 17, or be confused for 1d6 rounds. The save DC is charisma based.
Rend Armor: If the KMC hits with both claw attacks, it pulls apart any armor worn by its foe. This attack deals 4d6+8 points of damage to the opponent’s armor. Creatures not wearing armor are unaffected by this special attack. Armor reduced to 0 hit points is destroyed. Damaged armor may be repaired with a successful Craft (armorsmithing) check.
Unicorn_Giggles
09-18-07, 07:34 AM GRAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

CRAB BATTLE!!!

I'm not proud that I know about this, by the way.
Sunblast
09-18-07, 07:41 AM This small cave demon have massive claws that look like they could rip armor apart.
Bah, only armor? Look at those massive claws! It could rip a tank apart!
Sajek
09-18-07, 07:49 AM It's DR should be 10/bludgeoning. After all, it is very hard to "just stab it!"
RhynoD
09-18-07, 05:00 PM Bah, only armor? Look at those massive claws! It could rip a tank apart!
Trying to keep it in context. Apparatus of Kwalish maybe?

It's DR should be 10/bludgeoning. After all, it is very hard to "just stab it!"
Eh, I figured it wouldn’t have any particular resistance to magic. And I figure, it’s got that tough shell, hitting it at all wouldn’t do much…
Hmmm….This requires consideration.
Also, your SN seems familiar. I may know what it’s from, I may not… PM me about it if you get the chance.

Also, I think I'll lower its base speed. Devilishly dodgy it was, but I don't recall it moving that fast otherwise...

Also, is there a specific ability that actually would allow it to rip armor apart? I can't think of anything off the top of my head...Nor do I imagine it needs to. This thing is hard enough: I actually want it to be capable of being beaten at a high enough (non-epic) level.
Easalyamusedoldman
09-18-07, 05:12 PM Vulnerability to corn.
ArgulFraster
09-18-07, 07:06 PM Someone please explain the ref...
Sajek
09-18-07, 07:11 PM Put "Crab Battle" into YouTube. You will see.
captianhowdy
09-18-07, 07:15 PM You HAVE to add a bonus to sundering
HE SHATTERED HIS KNIFE FOR GOD SAKES MAN
RhynoD
09-18-07, 07:16 PM You HAVE to add a bonus to sundering
HE SHATTERED HIS KNIFE FOR GOD SAKES MAN

That's what its shatter ability is for.
TheKeyofE
09-18-07, 07:47 PM I've encountered some kind of cave demon...

OH MY GOD!! It's looking right at me!
captianhowdy
09-19-07, 12:29 AM That's what its shatter ability is for.
yeah, noticed that after i posted
StruckingFuggle
09-19-07, 01:23 AM I think it needs a wider threat range on those claws.

And some sort of way to enter your square, but if you miss or fail to bypass its DR on your AoO, you damage yourself.
psy001098121
09-19-07, 02:16 AM Then you can add an aura where all attempts at making long range or divine communication are instead met with

0LI0LI0LI0LI0000!!!
Xanaphia_Undomiel
09-19-07, 02:45 AM Just to note, this is where you post monsters.
RhynoD
09-19-07, 09:18 AM I think it needs a wider threat range on those claws.

And some sort of way to enter your square, but if you miss or fail to bypass its DR on your AoO, you damage yourself.
The problem with range is that it's a diminutive creature. It's hard to give it any kind of range.

As for damaging yourself, we were thinking about that, but what are the rules about one creature climbing on top of another? Are there rules for that?

Then you can add an aura where all attempts at making long range or divine communication are instead met with

0LI0LI0LI0LI0000!!!
It can already do something like that. It makes ghost sounds that cause confusion.
psy001098121
09-19-07, 11:21 AM Ahh, I missed that. My mistake.
StruckingFuggle
09-19-07, 01:08 PM The problem with range is that it's a diminutive creature. It's hard to give it any kind of range.

no no, I mean it should threaten a critical hit on a roll lower than 20, like 18-20 or something.

As for damaging yourself, we were thinking about that, but what are the rules about one creature climbing on top of another? Are there rules for that?

If not, make something up. :)
dman11235
09-19-07, 01:16 PM The HD need to be upped to d8s, that's animal HD.

I disagree with Strucking. Give it Augmented critical instead. 18-20x3.
Karish
09-19-07, 01:28 PM On entering the square...

I'd make it the same as initiative a grapple on a crature three or more sizes bigger than you.
RhynoD
09-19-07, 04:00 PM The HD need to be upped to d8s, that's animal HD.

I disagree with Strucking. Give it Augmented critical instead. 18-20x3.

ah. We made it 19-20/x2, but apparently I forgot to put it down here. And I figured 18-20/x3 would make it just a smidge over-powered.

As for HD, i figured d8 would be a bit too much...I suppose I could just lower its HD, but I dunno...5d8+30? Hmm....
But I guess if that's the standard I should go with that.
dman11235
09-19-07, 04:21 PM Since you don't have a CR, there's no such thing as over or under powered. And besides, it wouldn't change much, it just hurst a little more.
Unicorn_Giggles
09-19-07, 04:24 PM I think you should give each pincer a chance to cut its opponent’s head off. After all, what’s more terrifying than a crab with vorpal pincers?
Babzidu
09-19-07, 04:59 PM RhynoD. I have to say. This is the most beatiful thing my eyes have ever seen. I PRAISE YOUR NAME ALMOST AS MUCH AS DRAGINJA'S!! :ayyyy!: :bow: :clap: :cheer: :dancin: :evillaugh :angelhide :bounce: :pile:
PhaedrusXY
09-19-07, 05:43 PM The Beblith demon (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm#bebilith)has the ability to tear armor.

Rend Armor (Ex)
If a bebilith hits with both claw attacks, it pulls apart any armor worn by its foe. This attack deals 4d6+18 points of damage to the opponent’s armor. Creatures not wearing armor are unaffected by this special attack. Armor reduced to 0 hit points is destroyed. Damaged armor may be repaired with a successful Craft (armorsmithing) check. I would just give it Improved Sunder as a bonus feat, instead of the Shatter ability you've listed.
RhynoD
09-20-07, 04:09 PM Bump

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RhynoD 09-17-07, 11:07 PM	Hope this is the right place for this, I don't frequent the forums much. So my roommates and I had an idea, hope you get it. So if you get the joke, all criticisms and opinions would be helpful. [Updated to include rending armor and a slightly wider crit range] Kenyan Mangrove Crab Diminutive Animal Hit Dice: 5d8+30 (54) Initiative +8 Speed: 10ft. / Swim: 20 ft. / Burrow: 10ft. Armor Class: 30 (+8 Dex, +8 natural, +4 size), Touch: 24, No flat-footed. Base Attack/Grapple: +6/+18 Attack: Claw +14 melee (2d6+8) 19-20/x2 Full Attack: 2 claws +14 melee (2d6+8) 19-20/x2 Space/Reach: 1ft./0ft. Special Attacks: Oli, Rend Armor Special Qualities: Darkvision 60ft., Damage Reduction 10/magic, Frightful Presence Saves: Fort +4, Ref +12, Will +4 Abilities: Str 27, Dex 26, Con 17, Int 4, Wis 10, Cha 15 Skills: Climb +12, Hide +12, Intimidate +8, Jump +10, Listen +2, Move Silently +8, Spot +2, Swim +12 (Can always take 10, even when being rushed or in combat; *Racial +4 underwater) Feats: Power Attack, Quicken, Improved Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Improved Sunder Environment: Underground/Aquatic Organization: Solitary Challenge Rating: God knows? Treasure: 1 "ration" Alignment: Always neutral Advancement: I dunno Level Adjustment: - This small cave demon has massive claws that look like they could rip armor apart. The Kenyan Mangrove Crab is a small, gray or tan crab. It is usually found hiding under a rock waiting for prey to get close enough to attack. It attacks everything it encounters, regardless of size. Combat The Kenyan Mangrove Crab stays hidden until just before its prey comes within reach. It comes out of hiding, paralyzing its opponent with its frightful presense, then viciously attacking. It usually targets its enemy's eyes, blinding it to make further combat easier. Frightful Presence: As with dragons, the KMC can frighten opponents with its mere presence. See the entry for dragons. Oli: 1d6 rounds after it enters combat, the KMC uses Ghost Sounds (as the spell) as a spell-like ability. All creatures caught within 60 ft. must make a Will save, DC 17, or be confused for 1d6 rounds. The save DC is charisma based. Rend Armor: If the KMC hits with both claw attacks, it pulls apart any armor worn by its foe. This attack deals 4d6+8 points of damage to the opponent’s armor. Creatures not wearing armor are unaffected by this special attack. Armor reduced to 0 hit points is destroyed. Damaged armor may be repaired with a successful Craft (armorsmithing) check.
Unicorn_Giggles 09-18-07, 07:34 AM	GRAAAAAAAAAAH!!! CRAB BATTLE!!! I'm not proud that I know about this, by the way.
Sunblast 09-18-07, 07:41 AM	This small cave demon have massive claws that look like they could rip armor apart. Bah, only armor? Look at those massive claws! It could rip a tank apart!
Sajek 09-18-07, 07:49 AM	It's DR should be 10/bludgeoning. After all, it is very hard to "just stab it!"
RhynoD 09-18-07, 05:00 PM	Bah, only armor? Look at those massive claws! It could rip a tank apart! Trying to keep it in context. Apparatus of Kwalish maybe? It's DR should be 10/bludgeoning. After all, it is very hard to "just stab it!" Eh, I figured it wouldn’t have any particular resistance to magic. And I figure, it’s got that tough shell, hitting it at all wouldn’t do much… Hmmm….This requires consideration. Also, your SN seems familiar. I may know what it’s from, I may not… PM me about it if you get the chance. Also, I think I'll lower its base speed. Devilishly dodgy it was, but I don't recall it moving that fast otherwise... Also, is there a specific ability that actually would allow it to rip armor apart? I can't think of anything off the top of my head...Nor do I imagine it needs to. This thing is hard enough: I actually want it to be capable of being beaten at a high enough (non-epic) level.
Easalyamusedoldman 09-18-07, 05:12 PM	Vulnerability to corn.
ArgulFraster 09-18-07, 07:06 PM	Someone please explain the ref...
Sajek 09-18-07, 07:11 PM	Put "Crab Battle" into YouTube. You will see.
captianhowdy 09-18-07, 07:15 PM	You HAVE to add a bonus to sundering HE SHATTERED HIS KNIFE FOR GOD SAKES MAN
RhynoD 09-18-07, 07:16 PM	You HAVE to add a bonus to sundering HE SHATTERED HIS KNIFE FOR GOD SAKES MAN That's what its shatter ability is for.
TheKeyofE 09-18-07, 07:47 PM	I've encountered some kind of cave demon... OH MY GOD!! It's looking right at me!
captianhowdy 09-19-07, 12:29 AM	That's what its shatter ability is for. yeah, noticed that after i posted
StruckingFuggle 09-19-07, 01:23 AM	I think it needs a wider threat range on those claws. And some sort of way to enter your square, but if you miss or fail to bypass its DR on your AoO, you damage yourself.
psy001098121 09-19-07, 02:16 AM	Then you can add an aura where all attempts at making long range or divine communication are instead met with 0LI0LI0LI0LI0000!!!
Xanaphia_Undomiel 09-19-07, 02:45 AM	Just to note, this is where you post monsters.
RhynoD 09-19-07, 09:18 AM	I think it needs a wider threat range on those claws. And some sort of way to enter your square, but if you miss or fail to bypass its DR on your AoO, you damage yourself. The problem with range is that it's a diminutive creature. It's hard to give it any kind of range. As for damaging yourself, we were thinking about that, but what are the rules about one creature climbing on top of another? Are there rules for that? Then you can add an aura where all attempts at making long range or divine communication are instead met with 0LI0LI0LI0LI0000!!! It can already do something like that. It makes ghost sounds that cause confusion.
psy001098121 09-19-07, 11:21 AM	Ahh, I missed that. My mistake.
StruckingFuggle 09-19-07, 01:08 PM	The problem with range is that it's a diminutive creature. It's hard to give it any kind of range. no no, I mean it should threaten a critical hit on a roll lower than 20, like 18-20 or something. As for damaging yourself, we were thinking about that, but what are the rules about one creature climbing on top of another? Are there rules for that? If not, make something up. :)
dman11235 09-19-07, 01:16 PM	The HD need to be upped to d8s, that's animal HD. I disagree with Strucking. Give it Augmented critical instead. 18-20x3.
Karish 09-19-07, 01:28 PM	On entering the square... I'd make it the same as initiative a grapple on a crature three or more sizes bigger than you.
RhynoD 09-19-07, 04:00 PM	The HD need to be upped to d8s, that's animal HD. I disagree with Strucking. Give it Augmented critical instead. 18-20x3. ah. We made it 19-20/x2, but apparently I forgot to put it down here. And I figured 18-20/x3 would make it just a smidge over-powered. As for HD, i figured d8 would be a bit too much...I suppose I could just lower its HD, but I dunno...5d8+30? Hmm.... But I guess if that's the standard I should go with that.
dman11235 09-19-07, 04:21 PM	Since you don't have a CR, there's no such thing as over or under powered. And besides, it wouldn't change much, it just hurst a little more.
Unicorn_Giggles 09-19-07, 04:24 PM	I think you should give each pincer a chance to cut its opponent’s head off. After all, what’s more terrifying than a crab with vorpal pincers?
Babzidu 09-19-07, 04:59 PM	RhynoD. I have to say. This is the most beatiful thing my eyes have ever seen. I PRAISE YOUR NAME ALMOST AS MUCH AS DRAGINJA'S!! :ayyyy!: :bow: :clap: :cheer: :dancin: :evillaugh :angelhide :bounce: :pile:
PhaedrusXY 09-19-07, 05:43 PM	The Beblith demon (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm#bebilith)has the ability to tear armor. Rend Armor (Ex) If a bebilith hits with both claw attacks, it pulls apart any armor worn by its foe. This attack deals 4d6+18 points of damage to the opponent’s armor. Creatures not wearing armor are unaffected by this special attack. Armor reduced to 0 hit points is destroyed. Damaged armor may be repaired with a successful Craft (armorsmithing) check. I would just give it Improved Sunder as a bonus feat, instead of the Shatter ability you've listed.
RhynoD 09-20-07, 04:09 PM	Bump