Demilich ... not as good as it used to be? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Demilich ... not as good as it used to be? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
The Colonel
03-30-06, 11:40 PM Anyone else think that the 3.5ED Demilich is ruined?
The previous versions were sort of cool ... more of a terrain hazard than a monster, and it looks to me like lot of the flavour has leeched out in the new version.
Of course it would have been nearly impossible to CR the old version ... after all, you could just walk around it and it would do absolutely zip.
runestar
03-31-06, 12:42 AM What previous version are you talking about? In BG2, the demilich was a skull that was magic immune and could cast imprisonment all day. ;)

Well, the 3.5 version is a lot like that, though its not nearly as hard to kill(its dr was severely reduced) thanks to its crappy HD, though its trap the soul dc is still scary as it is directly based off HD(not 1/2HD). Throw in an epic warding spell for the few vulnerabilities it has...
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht
03-31-06, 02:36 PM I have no idea. Even in 2e, walking into a demilichs chamber would result in it trapping your soul as soon as it could.
Keeper of the Dark Realms
04-03-06, 04:18 PM What previous version are you talking about? In BG2, the demilich was a skull that was magic immune and could cast imprisonment all day. ;)

IIRC, in 1E, the demilich only attacked if you disturbed it. If ya didnt mess with it, it didnt do anything (if im remembering correctly). Have to look back in my MM2 to find out..but I think that's how it worked.
speeblefreak
04-03-06, 11:06 PM IIRC, in 1E, the demilich only attacked if you disturbed it. If ya didnt mess with it, it didnt do anything (if im remembering correctly).Yeah, that sounds like something a powerful wizard would want to become. :thinks:
Red_Rabbit
04-03-06, 11:55 PM What book is the Demi-lich in for 3rd I got the stats for 2ed but i wanna see the new craziness or not so craziness

The Rabbit
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht
04-04-06, 12:24 AM Yeah, that sounds like something a powerful wizard would want to become. :thinks:
Technically, it wasn't a goal. Liches naturally deteriorated, and becoming a demilich was the only way to prevent them from dying forever. During that time, their mind roamed the planes. It was implied that something even more dreadful came after the demilich stage.
steventirey1985
04-04-06, 12:30 AM What book is the Demi-lich in for 3rd I got the stats for 2ed but i wanna see the new craziness or not so craziness

The Rabbit

Epic Level Handbook. Also, you can look in the SRD.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
The Colonel 03-30-06, 11:40 PM	Anyone else think that the 3.5ED Demilich is ruined? The previous versions were sort of cool ... more of a terrain hazard than a monster, and it looks to me like lot of the flavour has leeched out in the new version. Of course it would have been nearly impossible to CR the old version ... after all, you could just walk around it and it would do absolutely zip.
runestar 03-31-06, 12:42 AM	What previous version are you talking about? In BG2, the demilich was a skull that was magic immune and could cast imprisonment all day. ;) Well, the 3.5 version is a lot like that, though its not nearly as hard to kill(its dr was severely reduced) thanks to its crappy HD, though its trap the soul dc is still scary as it is directly based off HD(not 1/2HD). Throw in an epic warding spell for the few vulnerabilities it has...
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 03-31-06, 02:36 PM	I have no idea. Even in 2e, walking into a demilichs chamber would result in it trapping your soul as soon as it could.
Keeper of the Dark Realms 04-03-06, 04:18 PM	What previous version are you talking about? In BG2, the demilich was a skull that was magic immune and could cast imprisonment all day. ;) IIRC, in 1E, the demilich only attacked if you disturbed it. If ya didnt mess with it, it didnt do anything (if im remembering correctly). Have to look back in my MM2 to find out..but I think that's how it worked.
speeblefreak 04-03-06, 11:06 PM	IIRC, in 1E, the demilich only attacked if you disturbed it. If ya didnt mess with it, it didnt do anything (if im remembering correctly).Yeah, that sounds like something a powerful wizard would want to become. :thinks:
Red_Rabbit 04-03-06, 11:55 PM	What book is the Demi-lich in for 3rd I got the stats for 2ed but i wanna see the new craziness or not so craziness The Rabbit
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 04-04-06, 12:24 AM	Yeah, that sounds like something a powerful wizard would want to become. :thinks: Technically, it wasn't a goal. Liches naturally deteriorated, and becoming a demilich was the only way to prevent them from dying forever. During that time, their mind roamed the planes. It was implied that something even more dreadful came after the demilich stage.
steventirey1985 04-04-06, 12:30 AM	What book is the Demi-lich in for 3rd I got the stats for 2ed but i wanna see the new craziness or not so craziness The Rabbit Epic Level Handbook. Also, you can look in the SRD.