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Urban Sniper 09-19-06, 06:55 PM	While making out a succubus character, while I was looking over the other demon stats and such, I noticed that none of the demons/devils/celestials that use weapons (whips, swords, bows, etc) have those weapon proficiencies listed in their feats section. Are they considered automatically proficient with any weapon they pick up, or are they considered to be proficient with only the weapon they are said to be using, or are they just not proficient with them? If that's the case, do their attack stats reflect non-proficiency penalties, or is this just something I've overlooked somewhere? Thanks.
Evandar_TAybara 09-19-06, 07:08 PM	It's included as part of their traits for being outsiders:Outsider Type: An outsider is at least partially composed of the essence (but not necessarily the material) of some plane other than the Material Plane. Some creatures start out as some other type and become outsiders when they attain a higher (or lower) state of spiritual existence. Features: An outsider has the following features. —8-sided Hit Dice. —Base attack bonus equal to total Hit Dice (as fighter). —Good Fortitude, Reflex, and Will saves. —Skill points equal to (8 + Int modifier, minimum 1) per Hit Die, with quadruple skill points for the first Hit Die. Traits: An outsider possesses the following traits (unless otherwise noted in a creature’s entry). —Darkvision out to 60 feet. —Unlike most other living creatures, an outsider does not have a dual nature—its soul and body form one unit. When an outsider is slain, no soul is set loose. Spells that restore souls to their bodies, such as raise dead, reincarnate, and resurrection, don’t work on an outsider. It takes a different magical effect, such as limited wish, wish, miracle, or true resurrection to restore it to life. An outsider with the native subtype can be raised, reincarnated, or resurrected just as other living creatures can be. —Proficient with all simple and martial weapons and any weapons mentioned in its entry. —Proficient with whatever type of armor (light, medium, or heavy) it is described as wearing, as well as all lighter types. Outsiders not indicated as wearing armor are not proficient with armor. Outsiders are proficient with shields if they are proficient with any form of armor. —Outsiders breathe, but do not need to eat or sleep (although they can do so if they wish). Native outsiders breathe, eat, and sleep.
OamuTheMonk 09-19-06, 07:09 PM	These are all creatures of the Outsider type, which have proficiency with all simple and martial weapons. Ah, someone beat me to it.
Urban Sniper 09-19-06, 07:18 PM	Ah, that explains it. Thanks again!