Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Dagoroth 07-18-06, 02:36 PM	would somebody be able to tell me in which book I might find a dire wolverine or perhaps a dire animal template?
savant_warlord13 07-18-06, 03:31 PM	neither exists
cwslyclgh 07-18-06, 03:48 PM	Dire Wolverines can be found in the Monster Manual on page 66. There is no Dire Creature template put out by WotC. you can find a Dire Creature template in Tome of Horrors by necromancer games (3.0, but I hear that a 3.5 version exists although I have never seen it) but it is a different take on "Dire Creatures" all together, and the dire animals from WotC sources can not be made with it.
savant_warlord13 07-18-06, 04:00 PM	neither exists oops
Verelor 07-18-06, 04:10 PM	Use this template: http://www.enworld.org/cc/converted/view_t.php?TemplateID=22 Dire should've been a template from the start.
cwslyclgh 07-18-06, 04:12 PM	again that template will not let you make the published dire animals with it.
Verelor 07-18-06, 04:17 PM	again that template will not let you make the published dire animals with it. Correct, because if the dire animals in the MM1 had little enough variation that they could all be reproduced with this template, well, then the need for a template would be much more self-evident to begin with. This template does not replace the dire animals in the MM: it lets you make respectable, believable dire versions of animals that have not already gotten the dire treatment. Obviously.
savant_warlord13 07-18-06, 04:36 PM	I suggest making dire animals on your own from scratch, and then checking on the boards for CR
Verelor 07-18-06, 05:19 PM	I suggest making dire animals on your own from scratch, and then checking on the boards for CR Certainly you could do that, by why bother when simply applying a template has most of the desired effect?
Wolf72 07-18-06, 09:07 PM	Certainly you could do that, by why bother when simply applying a template has most of the desired effect? I agree, the template is pretty good and not that far off from the upgrades in the MM