Djinni's and Air Elemental's Whirlwind (Su) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Djinni's and Air Elemental's Whirlwind (Su) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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megatron78
01-07-08, 01:26 PM Would a Djinni or Air Elemental using its Whirlwind(Su) Special Attack be vulnerable to attacks as it normally would?

I wonder about this because it says nothing about it in the Monster Manual description of the ability, and there isn't anything in Wizards' FAQ either. I would tend to think that a sword cutting thru wind would have no effect, but when I think of similar things like Gaseous Form, the caster can still be affected, albeit with Damage Reduction 10/magic.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
megatron78
01-08-08, 04:12 PM Really? Nobody has a clue?
DebiHuman
01-09-08, 08:12 PM A creature caught in the whirlwind has a -2 penalty to attack. However, the djinni or air elemental would take normal damage if the attack is successful.

Debby
megatron78
01-09-08, 09:54 PM Thanks for the reply. Where did you get this from (the normal damage part)? I'd like to have a source, if possible.
DebiHuman
01-10-08, 10:55 AM Technically, every creature takes damage normally unless it is noted otherwise. This was not noted. Furthermore, I checked the official errata and there was no mention of it.

This was simply a matter of looking at the Rules As Written (RAW) in the primary source (I went to the SRD actually) and then checked the official errata. If the whirlwind didn't take normal damage, that would be noted.

If you are asking if there is possibly a mistake in the RAW, then that is something different. It's possible. However, air elementals can do the same thing so I suspect that the game designers simply used the same wording for all these creatures.

I agree that a sword "cutting through a wind" is a bit strange, but a good dm can easily make this seem plausible. The whirlwind may take damage but how it looks is up to the individual DM. You may not see any effect from slashing the whirlwind unless your DM describes it as slowing down. Another DM may describe it with gory details.

Debby
Dead_Weasel
01-11-08, 02:52 AM I agree that a sword "cutting through a wind" is a bit strange, but a good dm can easily make this seem plausible.It should not make that much of a difference whether the wind happens to be a whirlwind or in a vague humanoid outline - some creatures just require more creativity to make them as "colorful" to fight. As for a 'gorier' option - ectoplasm?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
megatron78 01-07-08, 01:26 PM	Would a Djinni or Air Elemental using its Whirlwind(Su) Special Attack be vulnerable to attacks as it normally would? I wonder about this because it says nothing about it in the Monster Manual description of the ability, and there isn't anything in Wizards' FAQ either. I would tend to think that a sword cutting thru wind would have no effect, but when I think of similar things like Gaseous Form, the caster can still be affected, albeit with Damage Reduction 10/magic. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
megatron78 01-08-08, 04:12 PM	Really? Nobody has a clue?
DebiHuman 01-09-08, 08:12 PM	A creature caught in the whirlwind has a -2 penalty to attack. However, the djinni or air elemental would take normal damage if the attack is successful. Debby
megatron78 01-09-08, 09:54 PM	Thanks for the reply. Where did you get this from (the normal damage part)? I'd like to have a source, if possible.
DebiHuman 01-10-08, 10:55 AM	Technically, every creature takes damage normally unless it is noted otherwise. This was not noted. Furthermore, I checked the official errata and there was no mention of it. This was simply a matter of looking at the Rules As Written (RAW) in the primary source (I went to the SRD actually) and then checked the official errata. If the whirlwind didn't take normal damage, that would be noted. If you are asking if there is possibly a mistake in the RAW, then that is something different. It's possible. However, air elementals can do the same thing so I suspect that the game designers simply used the same wording for all these creatures. I agree that a sword "cutting through a wind" is a bit strange, but a good dm can easily make this seem plausible. The whirlwind may take damage but how it looks is up to the individual DM. You may not see any effect from slashing the whirlwind unless your DM describes it as slowing down. Another DM may describe it with gory details. Debby
Dead_Weasel 01-11-08, 02:52 AM	I agree that a sword "cutting through a wind" is a bit strange, but a good dm can easily make this seem plausible.It should not make that much of a difference whether the wind happens to be a whirlwind or in a vague humanoid outline - some creatures just require more creativity to make them as "colorful" to fight. As for a 'gorier' option - ectoplasm?