Do Fiendish Vermin gain Feats? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Do Fiendish Vermin gain Feats? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Razorcake
02-19-05, 01:10 PM Quick question guys n gals.

Does my CR 13 Fiendish Collosal Monstrous Spider gain feats thanks to his inborn INT of 3 or not?
The life of the PC's is ofcourse on the edge once again thanks to this problem...

Thanks in advance people!
Starmage21
02-19-05, 01:25 PM I would give em feats. theyre intelligent after all.

The template might say otherwise though, a fiendish rat might just be a naturally evil rat.
MetalGemini
02-19-05, 01:36 PM nope. feats are determined by Hit Die, not Int. Having a higher Int might get him more skill points (doubtful with a 3 Int, but thats not the point) but he still only gets feats at the appropriate HD (1,3,6,etc)
Razorcake
02-19-05, 01:49 PM I meant,

normally vermin dont gain feats because of their INT of 0.
Now its 3, do they gain feats? Per HD ofcourse.

Thats what i meant sorry for the unclearness.
Lord Schpungus
02-19-05, 02:25 PM Yeah, they have an Int score, so they gain feats and skills normally. They lose their Mindless quality, though, since they have a mind.
Gilean
02-20-05, 04:10 AM Yes, they gain feats and skill points. Not many class skills, though.
Slagger the Chuul
02-20-05, 05:35 AM Well, whatever skills you give them for their racial HD are going to be class skills, so I'd say that's as many as they need. With such a low Int score they'll still only have 1 skill point per HD (plus an extra 3 for the first HD) so they shouldn't end up with many ranks in anything.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Razorcake 02-19-05, 01:10 PM	Quick question guys n gals. Does my CR 13 Fiendish Collosal Monstrous Spider gain feats thanks to his inborn INT of 3 or not? The life of the PC's is ofcourse on the edge once again thanks to this problem... Thanks in advance people!
Starmage21 02-19-05, 01:25 PM	I would give em feats. theyre intelligent after all. The template might say otherwise though, a fiendish rat might just be a naturally evil rat.
MetalGemini 02-19-05, 01:36 PM	nope. feats are determined by Hit Die, not Int. Having a higher Int might get him more skill points (doubtful with a 3 Int, but thats not the point) but he still only gets feats at the appropriate HD (1,3,6,etc)
Razorcake 02-19-05, 01:49 PM	I meant, normally vermin dont gain feats because of their INT of 0. Now its 3, do they gain feats? Per HD ofcourse. Thats what i meant sorry for the unclearness.
Lord Schpungus 02-19-05, 02:25 PM	Yeah, they have an Int score, so they gain feats and skills normally. They lose their Mindless quality, though, since they have a mind.
Gilean 02-20-05, 04:10 AM	Yes, they gain feats and skill points. Not many class skills, though.
Slagger the Chuul 02-20-05, 05:35 AM	Well, whatever skills you give them for their racial HD are going to be class skills, so I'd say that's as many as they need. With such a low Int score they'll still only have 1 skill point per HD (plus an extra 3 for the first HD) so they shouldn't end up with many ranks in anything.