Doppleganger ECL [Archive] - Wizards Community

Doppleganger ECL [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Hannibal
07-28-04, 07:04 PM I have a player who wants to play as a doppleganger, but I can't seem to figure out it's ECL. Anyone know? I'm playing in 3rd ed.
obrysii
07-28-04, 07:46 PM it's in the srd.
Super Guy
07-28-04, 07:50 PM The 3.5 Doppleganger has an ECL of 8. That is, you can have an 8th level fighter and a Doppleganger (with it's 4 HD and +4 LA, it is ECL 8)

Unfortunately, I'm not sure of the difference between the 3.0 and 3.5 Doppleganger. Probably not much.
quaiven
07-29-04, 10:36 AM Originally posted by Super Guy
The 3.5 Doppleganger has an ECL of 8. That is, you can have an 8th level fighter and a Doppleganger (with it's 4 HD and +4 LA, it is ECL 8)

Unfortunately, I'm not sure of the difference between the 3.0 and 3.5 Doppleganger. Probably not much.

I'm confused where you're getting this ECL of 8 from. I'm looking at the 3.5 MM and it says Level Adjustment: +4. Which to me means a 1st level Doppleganger character would equal a 5th level human character.
hiryuu
07-29-04, 10:40 AM Level Adjustment = +4
Hit Dice total = 4

Therefore, 4 + 4 = 8.
quaiven
07-29-04, 10:45 AM Wow...I'd never really payed attention to the ECL's before just read the section in the DMG on that, and I can see now why people say the LA and ECL's are too high.
Riznar
07-29-04, 01:46 PM The ECLs assume you will play to the strength of the race.
So no pixie barbarians if you want to get the most out of your ECL.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Hannibal 07-28-04, 07:04 PM	I have a player who wants to play as a doppleganger, but I can't seem to figure out it's ECL. Anyone know? I'm playing in 3rd ed.
obrysii 07-28-04, 07:46 PM	it's in the srd.
Super Guy 07-28-04, 07:50 PM	The 3.5 Doppleganger has an ECL of 8. That is, you can have an 8th level fighter and a Doppleganger (with it's 4 HD and +4 LA, it is ECL 8) Unfortunately, I'm not sure of the difference between the 3.0 and 3.5 Doppleganger. Probably not much.
quaiven 07-29-04, 10:36 AM	Originally posted by Super Guy The 3.5 Doppleganger has an ECL of 8. That is, you can have an 8th level fighter and a Doppleganger (with it's 4 HD and +4 LA, it is ECL 8) Unfortunately, I'm not sure of the difference between the 3.0 and 3.5 Doppleganger. Probably not much. I'm confused where you're getting this ECL of 8 from. I'm looking at the 3.5 MM and it says Level Adjustment: +4. Which to me means a 1st level Doppleganger character would equal a 5th level human character.
hiryuu 07-29-04, 10:40 AM	Level Adjustment = +4 Hit Dice total = 4 Therefore, 4 + 4 = 8.
quaiven 07-29-04, 10:45 AM	Wow...I'd never really payed attention to the ECL's before just read the section in the DMG on that, and I can see now why people say the LA and ECL's are too high.
Riznar 07-29-04, 01:46 PM	The ECLs assume you will play to the strength of the race. So no pixie barbarians if you want to get the most out of your ECL.