DR and Antimagic [Archive] - Wizards Community

DR and Antimagic [Archive] - Wizards Community

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dengarbountyhunter
08-10-06, 02:03 PM According to the Monster Manual 3.5 Errata, DR X/cold iron, X/silver, X/magic and X/holy, unholy, chaotic or lawful should be Supernatural (Su). Others become Extraordinary (Ex), but that's not important.

Supernatural abilities are affected by Antimagic Fields:
Antimagic field: An invisible barrier surrounds you and moves with you. The space within this barrier is impervious to most magical effects, including spells, spell-like abilities, and supernatural abilities. Likewise, it prevents the functioning of any magic items or spells within its confines.

So some DRs now don't work in Antimagic Fields? That's weeeird...
Also, must they be activated by a standard action like most supernatural abilities?
Khael
08-10-06, 02:56 PM So some DRs now don't work in Antimagic Fields? That's weeeird...
Also, must they be activated by a standard action like most supernatural abilities?

There is no action to a DR, but the field effect isn't weird when you think about it. Many D&D creatures are magical in nature so put them in a field where that power is suppressed and *poof* their closer to a non-magical creature i.e. no super regen (one form of DR).
Alac Luin
08-10-06, 03:06 PM Yep, some DRs do not work in an AMF, which kind of makes up for the inability to overcome the stated DR without magic.
and the list reads (from the FAQ)
"Damage reduction is extraordinary unless the weapon property that bypasses the damage reduction is “magic” (as in damage reduction #/magic) or one of the four alignment qualities (chaotic, evil, good, or lawful), in which case it is supernatural."

So DR X/cold iron, X/silver are not overcome in an Amf
EDIT: This last line is false with the errataed RAW.
dengarbountyhunter
08-10-06, 04:26 PM It's written in the 3.5 MM Errata! DR x/silver or cold iron is a supernatural ability!
shadow_kras
08-10-06, 04:39 PM Damage reduction / Anything is a supernatural ability. That represents a magical defense of the creature against certain materials/energy.
Damage reduction / - (barbarian one) is extraordinary. This represents the hard training to overcome ALL damage.
Alac Luin
08-10-06, 10:14 PM You know this is kinda fishy.
dengarbountyhunter, sorry about that, I read the FAQ, not the errata. A few things seem to be contrdictory, to me but it can work.

shadow_kras, your statement doesn't really hold true (though not a bad description).
Since the errata does say "DR X/adamantine should be (Ex)"

So, some materials are EX, while other materials are not?

The premice in the FAQ
"Damage reduction that is bypassed by any other weapon quality that a manufactured weapon could not have without being magical also would be a supernatural special quality."

I under stand alchimal silver is what is typically used to overcome DR silver, but it can also be overcome by silver coins sharpened and fashioned into arrow heads.
I think this qualifies as within the above statement.
I'm not so hot about "cold iorn", I think I'm thinking in 2ed terms on this one, so i'll leave this allone.
Eh, more house rules.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
dengarbountyhunter 08-10-06, 02:03 PM	According to the Monster Manual 3.5 Errata, DR X/cold iron, X/silver, X/magic and X/holy, unholy, chaotic or lawful should be Supernatural (Su). Others become Extraordinary (Ex), but that's not important. Supernatural abilities are affected by Antimagic Fields: Antimagic field: An invisible barrier surrounds you and moves with you. The space within this barrier is impervious to most magical effects, including spells, spell-like abilities, and supernatural abilities. Likewise, it prevents the functioning of any magic items or spells within its confines. So some DRs now don't work in Antimagic Fields? That's weeeird... Also, must they be activated by a standard action like most supernatural abilities?
Khael 08-10-06, 02:56 PM	So some DRs now don't work in Antimagic Fields? That's weeeird... Also, must they be activated by a standard action like most supernatural abilities? There is no action to a DR, but the field effect isn't weird when you think about it. Many D&D creatures are magical in nature so put them in a field where that power is suppressed and poof their closer to a non-magical creature i.e. no super regen (one form of DR).
Alac Luin 08-10-06, 03:06 PM	Yep, some DRs do not work in an AMF, which kind of makes up for the inability to overcome the stated DR without magic. and the list reads (from the FAQ) "Damage reduction is extraordinary unless the weapon property that bypasses the damage reduction is “magic” (as in damage reduction #/magic) or one of the four alignment qualities (chaotic, evil, good, or lawful), in which case it is supernatural." So DR X/cold iron, X/silver are not overcome in an Amf EDIT: This last line is false with the errataed RAW.
dengarbountyhunter 08-10-06, 04:26 PM	It's written in the 3.5 MM Errata! DR x/silver or cold iron is a supernatural ability!
shadow_kras 08-10-06, 04:39 PM	Damage reduction / Anything is a supernatural ability. That represents a magical defense of the creature against certain materials/energy. Damage reduction / - (barbarian one) is extraordinary. This represents the hard training to overcome ALL damage.
Alac Luin 08-10-06, 10:14 PM	You know this is kinda fishy. dengarbountyhunter, sorry about that, I read the FAQ, not the errata. A few things seem to be contrdictory, to me but it can work. shadow_kras, your statement doesn't really hold true (though not a bad description). Since the errata does say "DR X/adamantine should be (Ex)" So, some materials are EX, while other materials are not? The premice in the FAQ "Damage reduction that is bypassed by any other weapon quality that a manufactured weapon could not have without being magical also would be a supernatural special quality." I under stand alchimal silver is what is typically used to overcome DR silver, but it can also be overcome by silver coins sharpened and fashioned into arrow heads. I think this qualifies as within the above statement. I'm not so hot about "cold iorn", I think I'm thinking in 2ed terms on this one, so i'll leave this allone. Eh, more house rules.