Dracoliches and Feats with Con Prereqs [Archive] - Wizards Community

Dracoliches and Feats with Con Prereqs [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Zar Niln
11-29-03, 12:32 AM Can dracoliches gain feats like enlarge breath or clinging breath?
Kvantum
11-29-03, 01:09 AM I'd say so, yeah. Just use their Cha as the determinant for qualifying for feats, since the DC(s) of a dracolich's breath weapon is based off of Cha rather than Con after they enter undeath.
dariustad
12-07-03, 04:34 PM Well, (usually) a dragon has to be alive before it becomes a dracolich, so it could have acquired the feats before the change.

At least, I've never had a dracolich that had no previous mortal existance from which to build its power base.
catharz
12-07-03, 05:40 PM Originally posted by dariustad
Well, (usually) a dragon has to be alive before it becomes a dracolich, so it could have acquired the feats before the change.

The problem with this is that once you loose the pre-reqs, you effectively loose the feat. Its a minor design flaw, and if they end up adressing it, it will probably be as Kvantum stated.
nick012000
12-08-03, 03:45 AM Use your Cha. That seems to be the standard for undead with Con-based abilities. Or, alternately, give him a Dark Heart of Vollus (found here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/pse/20030628a)), which give the user an effective Con of 18.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Zar Niln 11-29-03, 12:32 AM	Can dracoliches gain feats like enlarge breath or clinging breath?
Kvantum 11-29-03, 01:09 AM	I'd say so, yeah. Just use their Cha as the determinant for qualifying for feats, since the DC(s) of a dracolich's breath weapon is based off of Cha rather than Con after they enter undeath.
dariustad 12-07-03, 04:34 PM	Well, (usually) a dragon has to be alive before it becomes a dracolich, so it could have acquired the feats before the change. At least, I've never had a dracolich that had no previous mortal existance from which to build its power base.
catharz 12-07-03, 05:40 PM	Originally posted by dariustad Well, (usually) a dragon has to be alive before it becomes a dracolich, so it could have acquired the feats before the change. The problem with this is that once you loose the pre-reqs, you effectively loose the feat. Its a minor design flaw, and if they end up adressing it, it will probably be as Kvantum stated.
nick012000 12-08-03, 03:45 AM	Use your Cha. That seems to be the standard for undead with Con-based abilities. Or, alternately, give him a Dark Heart of Vollus (found here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/pse/20030628a)), which give the user an effective Con of 18.