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jagggar 12-24-03, 08:43 PM	"...arcane spellcaster level 7th..." Anyone else see a problem there? You gain a feat at 6th level, and then have to wait till 9th level to gain another feat. Meaning the earliest you can take it is 9th level. By then, you've got four dragons to choose from (ignoring alignment), so why would anyone choose a white dragon except for flavor?
paolung 12-25-03, 10:44 AM	perhaps you're not a "pure" caster, but rather a multiclassed character- let's say sorc 7/monk2 or something, which would allow you to get the feat because your ECL is 9, etc.
Adrius Malech 12-27-03, 11:14 PM	because.. d&d should be about flavor, story, role playing.. (disregarding you having said "besides for flavor")
jagggar 12-27-03, 11:44 PM	Blah, I don't want to multi-class. . . Yeah, I guess you're right. . . and now, after getting a white dragon in my minatures pack, I might actually go with it anyway. Of course, that's if I can't urge my DM to change it. (Plus they're cuter than the other wyrmlings that'll be avalible to me.)
paolung 12-28-03, 12:41 AM	honestly, white dragons kinda suck... they're the stupidest and smallest of the chromatic dragons... they're basically "animalistic predators". wait and get a real dragon, that's what i say :smirk:
jagggar 12-28-03, 12:47 AM	Kinda? I think it's a little more than just "kinda". I'd rather have a white dragon than be holding out for a level that we don't even get to. Who knows, we might just take five years to get to 12th level. . . why hello red. . .
paolung 12-28-03, 01:58 AM	gold dragons are the bizomb IMO... reds are powerful but very destructive, they looooooooove to destroy stuff. with gold you have the same firepower but less appetite for pure devastation. it's worth the wait.
green_yawgmoth 12-28-03, 08:09 PM	What do you need to get a shadow dragon familiar? a breath weapon that is practically a maxed ennervation or better is super fantastic.
Vaalingrade Ashland 12-28-03, 08:49 PM	I'd put it at 15th. The book doesn't mention non-true dragons.
Lord Nat 12-28-03, 08:54 PM	Originally posted by jagggar "...arcane spellcaster level 7th..." Anyone else see a problem there? You gain a feat at 6th level, and then have to wait till 9th level to gain another feat. Meaning the earliest you can take it is 9th level. By then, you've got four dragons to choose from (ignoring alignment), so why would anyone choose a white dragon except for flavor? :uh-huh: Sounds like a missprint to me. I'd just say you can take it at 6th.
Ogre4Hire 01-01-04, 10:24 PM	the 7th level prerequisit is not a misprint. Look at the Improved Familiar feat in the DMG. It also has several familiars only available at caster level 7. You are allowed to take the feat at 6th level, it just won't do you any good then.:b:
SSR 01-03-04, 11:38 AM	Think about this: At 14th level you could have a gold dragon familiar! Not only does it have an ecl of 13, it also has granted abilities!!! but now to the cool part: I play a gnome wizard, at 14th level he has a gold dragon. The gold dragon wyrmling is medium size, my gnome is smal... He can FLY on his FAMILIAR!!!! cool! Now THAT is worth a feat!
Kenkai 01-03-04, 11:19 PM	wow sweet ^_^
NorthSaber 01-11-04, 04:35 AM	Most DMs allow any PC to delay taking a feat just for this reason. There's no good reason why a PC can learn a feat ONLY at those certain points and not later.
IronGolem 01-11-04, 11:33 PM	What about a Radiant Dragon Familiar? What level would Wizard have to be to get one of those?? IronGolem
thugpoetry 01-15-04, 06:25 PM	Do those DM's also allow you to take your skill points later? After all, there's no good reason that you have to get better at those skills at that particular time and not later. Logic there seems somewhat flawed to me.