Dragon skills? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Dragon skills? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Fayle
09-07-05, 11:17 PM I am creating a dragon from the ground up for my campaign and I was wondering if anyone knew what a dragon's max skill rank per HD was (or if it's done by age category). In the MM under "skills" it reads as follows:

All dragons have skill points equal to (6 + Int modifier, minimum 1) x (Hit Dice +3).

After that it goes on to what they usually take the most ranks in. However, even though I know how many total skill points I have I do not know what the max ranks per HD (or age category) are. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, or perhaps it's just not said. Could I just take the dragon's total number of skill points and divide it by his HD? That seems kind of weird but I don't really know how to go about this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sledged
09-07-05, 11:58 PM The short answer: max rank = HD + 3 for class skills and max rank = (HD + 3) / 2 for cross-class skills. This applies to all creatures whether the HD are racial or from class levels.
Wolf72
09-08-05, 09:02 PM just think of HD as levels and you should be okay ... most (I think all) of the examples I've seen give dragons retroactive skill points.

if you're building a dragon from wyrmling up, it's not to bad to figure out skills ... I guess just making up an ancient dragon and trying to figure out the skill points would be kinda annoying.

if you're interested I made a word file with all the dragon skill point progressions (MM, OA, Psi, MoF, and DL ones ...) it just gives the HD, int score, cha score, skill points (not-retroactive), caster level and total number of feats.

you can just post a yes, please here or PM me ... (you'll have to wait until sunday before I can email it)
Sledged
09-09-05, 05:26 PM just think of HD as levels and you should be okay ... most (I think all) of the examples I've seen give dragons retroactive skill points.The Draconomicon states that skill points due to int are retroactive anytime the dragon's int increases due to aging (as opposed to ability increases due to 4 class levels).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Fayle 09-07-05, 11:17 PM	I am creating a dragon from the ground up for my campaign and I was wondering if anyone knew what a dragon's max skill rank per HD was (or if it's done by age category). In the MM under "skills" it reads as follows: All dragons have skill points equal to (6 + Int modifier, minimum 1) x (Hit Dice +3). After that it goes on to what they usually take the most ranks in. However, even though I know how many total skill points I have I do not know what the max ranks per HD (or age category) are. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, or perhaps it's just not said. Could I just take the dragon's total number of skill points and divide it by his HD? That seems kind of weird but I don't really know how to go about this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sledged 09-07-05, 11:58 PM	The short answer: max rank = HD + 3 for class skills and max rank = (HD + 3) / 2 for cross-class skills. This applies to all creatures whether the HD are racial or from class levels.
Wolf72 09-08-05, 09:02 PM	just think of HD as levels and you should be okay ... most (I think all) of the examples I've seen give dragons retroactive skill points. if you're building a dragon from wyrmling up, it's not to bad to figure out skills ... I guess just making up an ancient dragon and trying to figure out the skill points would be kinda annoying. if you're interested I made a word file with all the dragon skill point progressions (MM, OA, Psi, MoF, and DL ones ...) it just gives the HD, int score, cha score, skill points (not-retroactive), caster level and total number of feats. you can just post a yes, please here or PM me ... (you'll have to wait until sunday before I can email it)
Sledged 09-09-05, 05:26 PM	just think of HD as levels and you should be okay ... most (I think all) of the examples I've seen give dragons retroactive skill points.The Draconomicon states that skill points due to int are retroactive anytime the dragon's int increases due to aging (as opposed to ability increases due to 4 class levels).