Drakes, Wyrms, Landwyrms [Archive] - Wizards Community

Drakes, Wyrms, Landwyrms [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Sarelle
12-23-03, 09:45 AM Okay - I have quite a few D&D books (all three monster ones) and quite a few accessories (minus Draconicom, so maybe that is where the answer lies) and many of them mention, along with wyverns, dragon-cousins being 'drakes, wyrms and landwyrms'.

This is very confusing, as Dragon's have the 'Wyrm' age group, but I like a good variation - however there are no mentions of drakes - what I assume to be thinner, more snake-like and non-sentient dragons - except for the very odd Felldrakes from MM2 (good-aligned, intelligent, not snake-like in any way and creepy-looking), and only one trype of non-dragon 'Wyrm' - the Fiend Folio Sunwyrm.

So what's the deal? Are drakes in D&D nonsentient, snake-like dragons? What the hell are wyrms and landwyrms if not true dragons?
the_heart
12-23-03, 10:40 AM originally posted by Vaalingrad ashland(sp)In dracology (yes, its a feild of study):

Dragon: four legs, two wings

drake: two legs, two wings

pseudo-dragon: four legs, no wings

wurm: no legs or wings

orm: no legs, two or more wings

But, none of the designers are dracologists

copied this from another thread in the draconomicon forum, does that help?

essentially i think drakes are less intelligent than 'true' dragons, and that Wyrm is used for any draconic creature, but especially for older 'true' dragons that should epitomise 'dragon-ness'

in the draconomicon, True dragons are defined as those that advance through 12 age categories.
Mithral Icesilver
12-23-03, 04:44 PM Originally posted by Sarelle
Okay - I have quite a few D&D books (all three monster ones) and quite a few accessories (minus Draconicom, so maybe that is where the answer lies) and many of them mention, along with wyverns, dragon-cousins being 'drakes, wyrms and landwyrms'.

This is very confusing, as Dragon's have the 'Wyrm' age group, but I like a good variation - however there are no mentions of drakes - what I assume to be thinner, more snake-like and non-sentient dragons - except for the very odd Felldrakes from MM2 (good-aligned, intelligent, not snake-like in any way and creepy-looking), and only one trype of non-dragon 'Wyrm' - the Fiend Folio Sunwyrm.

So what's the deal? Are drakes in D&D nonsentient, snake-like dragons? What the hell are wyrms and landwyrms if not true dragons?

You're forgetting the MMII Hellfire Wyrm, Sarelle.
Sarelle
12-24-03, 09:14 AM So I did. And I love that thing!

Well... 2 wyrms. Still not impressive.

Thanks the_heart, though.
Arilou_skiff
12-24-03, 05:13 PM IIRC: Drakes are cousins of dragons, they have only animal or slightly above animal intelligence but possess breath weapon (no magic though) they are also much smaller than true dragons.

A Wyrm is an age category of dragon but is generally used to describe any really powerful old draconic creature.
law
12-24-03, 07:19 PM Heres what I posted on another forum.

Drakes dont get stronger as they age and are usly a little weeker then dragons.

Drags (I think I spelled that right) are another step down from drakes even (usly CR 1-2).

Wyverns are on the same level as drakes but usly have a Stinger on there tail.

Then there are to types of wurms dragons (not the ago one) ones with legs and thos with out legs. Some times they can fly some times they cant (usly cant thats why there named wurms and spelling between the two mite be a little different).

Thats just a breaf look at the differing types of dragons (other then true). Im surten that theres other types out there but well finding them out can be some fun.

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Sarelle 12-23-03, 09:45 AM	Okay - I have quite a few D&D books (all three monster ones) and quite a few accessories (minus Draconicom, so maybe that is where the answer lies) and many of them mention, along with wyverns, dragon-cousins being 'drakes, wyrms and landwyrms'. This is very confusing, as Dragon's have the 'Wyrm' age group, but I like a good variation - however there are no mentions of drakes - what I assume to be thinner, more snake-like and non-sentient dragons - except for the very odd Felldrakes from MM2 (good-aligned, intelligent, not snake-like in any way and creepy-looking), and only one trype of non-dragon 'Wyrm' - the Fiend Folio Sunwyrm. So what's the deal? Are drakes in D&D nonsentient, snake-like dragons? What the hell are wyrms and landwyrms if not true dragons?
the_heart 12-23-03, 10:40 AM	originally posted by Vaalingrad ashland(sp)In dracology (yes, its a feild of study): Dragon: four legs, two wings drake: two legs, two wings pseudo-dragon: four legs, no wings wurm: no legs or wings orm: no legs, two or more wings But, none of the designers are dracologists copied this from another thread in the draconomicon forum, does that help? essentially i think drakes are less intelligent than 'true' dragons, and that Wyrm is used for any draconic creature, but especially for older 'true' dragons that should epitomise 'dragon-ness' in the draconomicon, True dragons are defined as those that advance through 12 age categories.
Mithral Icesilver 12-23-03, 04:44 PM	Originally posted by Sarelle Okay - I have quite a few D&D books (all three monster ones) and quite a few accessories (minus Draconicom, so maybe that is where the answer lies) and many of them mention, along with wyverns, dragon-cousins being 'drakes, wyrms and landwyrms'. This is very confusing, as Dragon's have the 'Wyrm' age group, but I like a good variation - however there are no mentions of drakes - what I assume to be thinner, more snake-like and non-sentient dragons - except for the very odd Felldrakes from MM2 (good-aligned, intelligent, not snake-like in any way and creepy-looking), and only one trype of non-dragon 'Wyrm' - the Fiend Folio Sunwyrm. So what's the deal? Are drakes in D&D nonsentient, snake-like dragons? What the hell are wyrms and landwyrms if not true dragons? You're forgetting the MMII Hellfire Wyrm, Sarelle.
Sarelle 12-24-03, 09:14 AM	So I did. And I love that thing! Well... 2 wyrms. Still not impressive. Thanks the_heart, though.
Arilou_skiff 12-24-03, 05:13 PM	IIRC: Drakes are cousins of dragons, they have only animal or slightly above animal intelligence but possess breath weapon (no magic though) they are also much smaller than true dragons. A Wyrm is an age category of dragon but is generally used to describe any really powerful old draconic creature.
law 12-24-03, 07:19 PM	Heres what I posted on another forum. Drakes dont get stronger as they age and are usly a little weeker then dragons. Drags (I think I spelled that right) are another step down from drakes even (usly CR 1-2). Wyverns are on the same level as drakes but usly have a Stinger on there tail. Then there are to types of wurms dragons (not the ago one) ones with legs and thos with out legs. Some times they can fly some times they cant (usly cant thats why there named wurms and spelling between the two mite be a little different). Thats just a breaf look at the differing types of dragons (other then true). Im surten that theres other types out there but well finding them out can be some fun.