ECL for MM2 templates [Archive] - Wizards Community

ECL for MM2 templates [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Duskey
09-22-03, 08:38 PM Hey, I've always wondered what the ecl are for:

Celestial
Half-Celestial
Fiendish
Half-Fiendish
Half-Dragon

and are these numbers anywhere in the books? (3.0 ONLY)
Mordenkainen's Rubber Duck of DOOM
09-22-03, 08:52 PM I know 1/2Dragon is 2, and Winged 1/2 Celestial or Fiendish is +3 (Wingless is +2). I'm unsure of Celestial and Fiendish.
Galahad_Knight
09-22-03, 09:19 PM 3.0 DMG p22
Half-dragon +3
Half fiendish/celestial +3

3.0 Savage Species p17
Fiendish/Celestial: +2
Half-Fiendish/Celestial: +4 (+3 without wings)
Half-Dragon +3 (+2 for the base, then +1 for the breath and immunities...I don't know why they bothered makign the destinction)

3.5 MM
Fiendish/Celestial: +2
Half-Fiendish/Celestial: +4 (always has wings in 3.5)
Half-Dragon +3
Duskey
09-23-03, 09:27 PM Thanks for the prompt answer
Duskey
09-28-03, 11:02 PM Now what about the ECL for the following templates:

Axiomatic
Anarchic

And Half-Elemental from MoTP for that matter
Galahad_Knight
09-28-03, 11:31 PM I can;t find an official number for those at the moment.

But my guess is +2 for anarchic/axomatic and +3 or +4 for half-elemental
Golem1972
09-29-03, 02:29 AM Half elementals can be found in the MotP, and RttToEE, they are all +2 LA. They cover the standard 4 elements: earth, air, fire, and water. I have not seen any elemental energy templates, i.e. sonic, acid, cold, etc...
Dackad
09-29-03, 02:45 PM All of the Half-somethings seem to be a +4 (except for a couple, like the Half-Troll and Half-Illithid)
Half-Fey in FF is +4
Half-Fiend/Half-Celestial +4
Half Elemental would probably be +4 as well
Duskey
10-07-03, 11:42 AM Haven't WotC released something with ECL's for all the templates?
Duskey
10-09-03, 06:15 AM They haven't? Wow, I'm astonished
Duskey
07-15-04, 01:03 AM Still need the LA's of the Half-Elementals...
Contrast
07-15-04, 09:18 AM Half elementals, according to the Manual of the planes 3.5 update booklette have a level adjustment of +3.

Axiomatic creatures, +4
Anarchic creatures +5
Pseudonatural creatures, +4

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Duskey 09-22-03, 08:38 PM	Hey, I've always wondered what the ecl are for: Celestial Half-Celestial Fiendish Half-Fiendish Half-Dragon and are these numbers anywhere in the books? (3.0 ONLY)
Mordenkainen's Rubber Duck of DOOM 09-22-03, 08:52 PM	I know 1/2Dragon is 2, and Winged 1/2 Celestial or Fiendish is +3 (Wingless is +2). I'm unsure of Celestial and Fiendish.
Galahad_Knight 09-22-03, 09:19 PM	3.0 DMG p22 Half-dragon +3 Half fiendish/celestial +3 3.0 Savage Species p17 Fiendish/Celestial: +2 Half-Fiendish/Celestial: +4 (+3 without wings) Half-Dragon +3 (+2 for the base, then +1 for the breath and immunities...I don't know why they bothered makign the destinction) 3.5 MM Fiendish/Celestial: +2 Half-Fiendish/Celestial: +4 (always has wings in 3.5) Half-Dragon +3
Duskey 09-23-03, 09:27 PM	Thanks for the prompt answer
Duskey 09-28-03, 11:02 PM	Now what about the ECL for the following templates: Axiomatic Anarchic And Half-Elemental from MoTP for that matter
Galahad_Knight 09-28-03, 11:31 PM	I can;t find an official number for those at the moment. But my guess is +2 for anarchic/axomatic and +3 or +4 for half-elemental
Golem1972 09-29-03, 02:29 AM	Half elementals can be found in the MotP, and RttToEE, they are all +2 LA. They cover the standard 4 elements: earth, air, fire, and water. I have not seen any elemental energy templates, i.e. sonic, acid, cold, etc...
Dackad 09-29-03, 02:45 PM	All of the Half-somethings seem to be a +4 (except for a couple, like the Half-Troll and Half-Illithid) Half-Fey in FF is +4 Half-Fiend/Half-Celestial +4 Half Elemental would probably be +4 as well
Duskey 10-07-03, 11:42 AM	Haven't WotC released something with ECL's for all the templates?
Duskey 10-09-03, 06:15 AM	They haven't? Wow, I'm astonished
Duskey 07-15-04, 01:03 AM	Still need the LA's of the Half-Elementals...
Contrast 07-15-04, 09:18 AM	Half elementals, according to the Manual of the planes 3.5 update booklette have a level adjustment of +3. Axiomatic creatures, +4 Anarchic creatures +5 Pseudonatural creatures, +4 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a