Effigy Jumper? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Effigy Jumper? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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SpudMaster
11-30-07, 01:46 PM The CA states that - An effigy creature loses all skill points and all feats except those feats yada yada yada.

Does this mean that my Thri-kreen effigy will lose its +30 jump skill?
Talisman
11-30-07, 04:42 PM No. Your thri-kreen's +30 Jump is a racial bonus, not skill points. Your effigy won't have any skill points in the Jump skill (or anything else), but with a Jump mod of 30 + Strength (and since Jump can be used untrained), it shouldn't need them.
dman11235
11-30-07, 04:50 PM They also lose all special qualities, and the +30 jump bonus is one. But I let them retain it. It makes for a better Grievous (add in soulfused (MoIncarnum) and give it multi-weapon fighting and four brilliant energy longswords).
Slagger the Chuul
11-30-07, 10:55 PM I guess it means that a mechanical copy of a thri-kreen just can't jump as well as the real thing.

Normally, a skill bonus wouldn't merit its own special ability the way Leap does, but I suppose there aren't many +30 bonuses just lying around.
Dead_Weasel
12-01-07, 05:42 PM I guess it means that a mechanical copy of a thri-kreen just can't jump as well as the real thing.

Normally, a skill bonus wouldn't merit its own special ability the way Leap does, but I suppose there aren't many +30 bonuses just lying around.That is why one of the various Warforged Creature templates floating around the boards would make a better Grievous.

N-K Necrosis, on the other hand, would be represented very nicely by an awakened effigy thri-kreen.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SpudMaster 11-30-07, 01:46 PM	The CA states that - An effigy creature loses all skill points and all feats except those feats yada yada yada. Does this mean that my Thri-kreen effigy will lose its +30 jump skill?
Talisman 11-30-07, 04:42 PM	No. Your thri-kreen's +30 Jump is a racial bonus, not skill points. Your effigy won't have any skill points in the Jump skill (or anything else), but with a Jump mod of 30 + Strength (and since Jump can be used untrained), it shouldn't need them.
dman11235 11-30-07, 04:50 PM	They also lose all special qualities, and the +30 jump bonus is one. But I let them retain it. It makes for a better Grievous (add in soulfused (MoIncarnum) and give it multi-weapon fighting and four brilliant energy longswords).
Slagger the Chuul 11-30-07, 10:55 PM	I guess it means that a mechanical copy of a thri-kreen just can't jump as well as the real thing. Normally, a skill bonus wouldn't merit its own special ability the way Leap does, but I suppose there aren't many +30 bonuses just lying around.
Dead_Weasel 12-01-07, 05:42 PM	I guess it means that a mechanical copy of a thri-kreen just can't jump as well as the real thing. Normally, a skill bonus wouldn't merit its own special ability the way Leap does, but I suppose there aren't many +30 bonuses just lying around.That is why one of the various Warforged Creature templates floating around the boards would make a better Grievous. N-K Necrosis, on the other hand, would be represented very nicely by an awakened effigy thri-kreen.