Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Rurik "The Silent" 06-17-05, 11:40 PM	simply, does anyone know what the ELC of a Hellfire Wyrm is? I know a great wyrm black dragon is 49 so im trying to find out some others
tyranith_of_hextor 06-18-05, 09:01 PM	Well, that monster is out of the MM 2, which is 3.0. I don't think 3.0 had the whole ECL for monster thing or level adjustment or anything. Try going to wizards, and finding a 3.5 patch. They're for books like Fiend Folio, Monter Manual 2, Dieties and Demigods, Epic level handbook, that sort of thing. But also... Why whould you want an ECL for a Hellfire Wyrm? **Whimpers in fear**. Those at will abilities? Jeez!
Rurik "The Silent" 06-19-05, 12:08 AM	Well, that monster is out of the MM 2, which is 3.0. I don't think 3.0 had the whole ECL for monster thing or level adjustment or anything. Try going to wizards, and finding a 3.5 patch. They're for books like Fiend Folio, Monter Manual 2, Dieties and Demigods, Epic level handbook, that sort of thing. But also... Why whould you want an ECL for a Hellfire Wyrm? **Whimpers in fear**. Those at will abilities? Jeez! well really im just looking at how all the dragons and their ELC's vs. CR compare. The hellfire wyrm ELC will probally be somewhere in the 30's at a guess, while CR is 24 i think. And the black dragon ELC is 49 while their CR is either 22 or 24. Things along those lines im comparing them.
Mithral Icesilver 06-19-05, 11:23 AM	Well, if you have the stats on hand, you could run them through an ECL calculator like, say, Solardin's here (http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/shadows/Handbook/ECLcalc.html). This is, of course, assuming that you want the ECL (with HD), rather than just the LA (without HD).