Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bartmanhomer 01-19-05, 07:54 PM	Does any angel, demon and devils that made outof elements. (Earth, Wind, Fire, Water for example) exist in D&D?
Darklion 01-19-05, 08:11 PM	Not that I know of, but there's nothing that prevents you from applying the elemental template from Manual of the Planes to an existing angel, devil, or demon.
Shemeska the Marauder 01-19-05, 09:49 PM	Not really, and it's all because of the inherent differences between what celestials/fiends/etc are and what elementals are. Celestials/fiends/etc exist as the physical manifestation of the 9 alignments, an idea/belief/ethos taken flesh. The elementals on the other hand exist independant of belief, being personifications of pure substance. Apples and Oranges, if you stay with the core planar setup. Now if you're doing your own thing entirely, nothing says you can't. However, that said you could have fiends or celestials that have the appearance of an elemental, but it isn't going to make them that elemental in what they are conceptually. For instance, lantern archons have no special connection to light or radience; Asuras (being LG archons fallen to CG) appear as having flaming wings or surrounded in flame, however they aren't beings that personify flame any more than an goblin does. The flame appearance of them is just a manifestation of their ideology of zealous wrath, and justice regardless of law. Similarly, a Gelugon (Ice Devil) may live in cold layers of Baator and appear connected with ice, cold, etc but it isn't a creature that embodies cold as an element in any way.