Elementals in a dungeon?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Elementals in a dungeon?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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brunswick
01-09-05, 08:42 AM Hi folks,

Since the Monster Manual mentions that earth elementals can pass through stone and earth and air elementals can fit through small cracks, woul you allow PCs to summon them into the cramped confines of a dungeon to fight for them??

Cheers,

Bruns. :)
Psychomessiahs
01-09-05, 09:12 AM I think so. I never read anywhere that this might be forbidden.
Also, do you know TESIII Morrowind? It´s a pc game rpg and in there I often meet elementals in caves or dungeons. Especially if it makes any sense, like finding a fire elemental near lavastreams etc.
CzarGarrett
01-09-05, 10:18 AM I would allow elementals to be summoned by the players pretty much anywhere.

Hell, with a difficult concentration check to keep it from getting really ******, I'd allow a player to summon a Water Elemental on the Plane of Fire.

'Naturally occuring' elementals is another story. If there's some sort of elemental gem in the dungeon or the dungeon was formerly home to a cleric or wizard who could summon elementals, then there might be an elemental or two that was out of place wandering around the dungeon.
ksbsnowowl
01-09-05, 11:32 AM Since the Monster Manual mentions that earth elementals can pass through stone and earth and air elementals can fit through small cracks, woul you allow PCs to summon them into the cramped confines of a dungeon to fight for them?Being able to fit through cracks or pass through stone has nothing to do with whether a creature can be summoned to a particular place.

A Druid could summon a wolf to a dungeon, and it has no special means of 'getting there,' because it doesn't need them. The spell magically summons them through space and possibly from other planes.
Zhar
01-09-05, 02:25 PM Being able to fit through cracks or pass through stone has nothing to do with whether a creature can be summoned to a particular place.

A Druid could summon a wolf to a dungeon, and it has no special means of 'getting there,' because it doesn't need them. The spell magically summons them through space and possibly from other planes.

Exactly what I think, if the elemental fits into the surronding area, (i.e. Summoning a Fire elemental in the plain of fire). But if it doesn't make any sense, I would say the the power of the surrounding area overcomes the one of the elemental (i hope i make sense) --Hope this helps--

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Post/Author/DateTime	Post
brunswick 01-09-05, 08:42 AM	Hi folks, Since the Monster Manual mentions that earth elementals can pass through stone and earth and air elementals can fit through small cracks, woul you allow PCs to summon them into the cramped confines of a dungeon to fight for them?? Cheers, Bruns. :)
Psychomessiahs 01-09-05, 09:12 AM	I think so. I never read anywhere that this might be forbidden. Also, do you know TESIII Morrowind? It´s a pc game rpg and in there I often meet elementals in caves or dungeons. Especially if it makes any sense, like finding a fire elemental near lavastreams etc.
CzarGarrett 01-09-05, 10:18 AM	I would allow elementals to be summoned by the players pretty much anywhere. Hell, with a difficult concentration check to keep it from getting really ******, I'd allow a player to summon a Water Elemental on the Plane of Fire. 'Naturally occuring' elementals is another story. If there's some sort of elemental gem in the dungeon or the dungeon was formerly home to a cleric or wizard who could summon elementals, then there might be an elemental or two that was out of place wandering around the dungeon.
ksbsnowowl 01-09-05, 11:32 AM	Since the Monster Manual mentions that earth elementals can pass through stone and earth and air elementals can fit through small cracks, woul you allow PCs to summon them into the cramped confines of a dungeon to fight for them?Being able to fit through cracks or pass through stone has nothing to do with whether a creature can be summoned to a particular place. A Druid could summon a wolf to a dungeon, and it has no special means of 'getting there,' because it doesn't need them. The spell magically summons them through space and possibly from other planes.
Zhar 01-09-05, 02:25 PM	Being able to fit through cracks or pass through stone has nothing to do with whether a creature can be summoned to a particular place. A Druid could summon a wolf to a dungeon, and it has no special means of 'getting there,' because it doesn't need them. The spell magically summons them through space and possibly from other planes. Exactly what I think, if the elemental fits into the surronding area, (i.e. Summoning a Fire elemental in the plain of fire). But if it doesn't make any sense, I would say the the power of the surrounding area overcomes the one of the elemental (i hope i make sense) --Hope this helps-- /////don't let old ladies attack you/////