Energy Drain Breath Weapon AOE vs Evasion [Archive] - Wizards Community

Energy Drain Breath Weapon AOE vs Evasion [Archive] - Wizards Community

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doc_scout
10-21-07, 09:41 AM How many DM's out there allow characters with the Evasion / Improved Evasion class ability to escape the effects of a Shadow Dragon's negative energy dealing breath weapon totally. After all, IAW (in accordance with) the SRD, it appears this would be the norm. I however am somewhat appalled that the SRD would allow such to happen. This seems to make the character almost god-like if they don't suffer any consequence at all. My idea of handling this goes as such: 1st I have revamped the description for the Evasion & Improved Evasion abilities. Now Evasion only grants an additional +4 bonus to REF saves and still takes 1/2 damage if the save is failed, 1/4 damage if the save is made. Improved Evasion grants a (stackable) +4 bonus to the REF save and if failed, the character only takes 1/4 damage. If they save, they only take 1/8 damage. Thus there is still a risk and challenge involved without the character scampering away freely after facing such a dreaded monster. This works for traps etc too. Think about it!
doc_scout
10-21-07, 09:59 AM I'VE GOT MORE IDEAS!!!
larry_the_titan
10-21-07, 12:31 PM Dude your over doing it. There has not been hide nor hair of evasion being abused in battle. It can keep your character going with a couple of saves but it is not broken. Evasion only kicks in if you save vs 1/2 damage on reflex. If you make any other save it doesn't work. If you make a reflex save for partial it doesn't work. Personally I can see the use for a Metamagic feat that still does damage on a successful Reflex Save vs a fireball.

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doc_scout 10-21-07, 09:41 AM	How many DM's out there allow characters with the Evasion / Improved Evasion class ability to escape the effects of a Shadow Dragon's negative energy dealing breath weapon totally. After all, IAW (in accordance with) the SRD, it appears this would be the norm. I however am somewhat appalled that the SRD would allow such to happen. This seems to make the character almost god-like if they don't suffer any consequence at all. My idea of handling this goes as such: 1st I have revamped the description for the Evasion & Improved Evasion abilities. Now Evasion only grants an additional +4 bonus to REF saves and still takes 1/2 damage if the save is failed, 1/4 damage if the save is made. Improved Evasion grants a (stackable) +4 bonus to the REF save and if failed, the character only takes 1/4 damage. If they save, they only take 1/8 damage. Thus there is still a risk and challenge involved without the character scampering away freely after facing such a dreaded monster. This works for traps etc too. Think about it!
doc_scout 10-21-07, 09:59 AM	I'VE GOT MORE IDEAS!!!
larry_the_titan 10-21-07, 12:31 PM	Dude your over doing it. There has not been hide nor hair of evasion being abused in battle. It can keep your character going with a couple of saves but it is not broken. Evasion only kicks in if you save vs 1/2 damage on reflex. If you make any other save it doesn't work. If you make a reflex save for partial it doesn't work. Personally I can see the use for a Metamagic feat that still does damage on a successful Reflex Save vs a fireball.