Post/Author/DateTime	Post
deadite 09-05-03, 09:34 AM	I have a ghaele player who has fallen from grace. He is evil now, but how does that affect his DR? Does his subtype change because he's no longer good?
ieattrollsforbreakfast 09-05-03, 12:20 PM	Well, there are no rules at all for fallen celestials because it sort of goes against the D&D concept of celestials, but if your allowing it its up to you. If I were you, I would strip him of his DR all together, as well as removing all his celestial abilities. However if you think that is too harsh, just change all good things to evil, and all evil things to good, including subtype and DR.
Joe Gold 09-05-03, 01:37 PM	If I got it right, his sub-type does not change. I believe Savage Species describes a ritual that can change it.
BenjCano 09-05-03, 01:44 PM	If I remember correctly, the WOTC module Forge of Fury had a fallen trumpet archon as one of the sub-villains. You might want to check it out and see how they changed its spell-like abilities. Of course, that was in the 3.0 days, and the damage reduction system has changed. Honestly, this sounds like a DM call to me. What do you think is right?
VigorMortis 09-05-03, 02:43 PM	It'd just be silly to strip a fallen ARCHON of his powers. After all, by all accounts, fallen angels are the most powerful of fiends... Personally, I'd think adding the Half-Fiend template, maybe the Corrupted one too, and converting the good powers to evil and so forth, would be a good idea.
SSj3goblin 09-05-03, 05:37 PM	Id say dr x/good...