Fastests and hardest to hit dragons up to 5hd? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Fastests and hardest to hit dragons up to 5hd? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Molot
06-20-07, 05:26 PM Dragonwrought Kbold can turn into a shape of a dragon (anything with dragon type and without templates) up to 5 HD using the Alter Self spell. The best reasons to do that are Armor Bonus (Natural + Size) and movement speeds.
I'm looking for the best shape in each category...

I hope the chart below will be filled. Sadly, I can't do it right now (exam times), so plz give me any input you can. For now I've put SRD dragons, but I'm sure there is something better.

Desired format:
(age category, if needed) dragon kind, parameter's value(s), book title & page number or link.

Fastest on land:
Wyrmling Shadow, 80 ft., Draconomicon pg. 191

Fastest on flight:
Wyrmling White, 150 ft. (average), d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#whiteDragon)
Wyrmling Brass, 150 ft. (average), d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#brassDragon)
Wyrmling Shadow, 150 ft. (average), Draconomicon pg. 191

Best maneuverability:
All SRD Wyrmlings, average, d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm)
Shadow, Battle and Fang Wyrmlings, average, Draconomicon

Fastest swimmer:
Wyrmling Black, 60ft (+water breathing), d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#blackDragon)
Wyrmling Styx, 60ft (+water breathing), Draconomicon pg. 188

Fastest burrower:
Wyrmling Brass, 30 ft., d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#brassDragon)

Fastest climber:
Does any dragon have it listed at all? Spider climb doesn't do it due to limitations on what can you get from polymorph.

Hardest to hit:
Wyrmling Shadow, +2 size +7 natural, Draconomicon pg. 191

Most Universal:
Shadow Wyrmling: wins 2, ties in 2. That makes 4 of 6.
obrysii
06-21-07, 09:48 AM Copper Wyrmlings are tied with Blues for being the hardest to hit.
Secrets Untold
06-22-07, 09:47 AM Fang Dragon, Wyrmling -- pg. 160, Draconomicon -- Free detect and read magic, trip ability, attacks as one size larger (small), bite deals Constitution drain, and it can imitate sounds perfectly. Also, tied for land speed (60)

Battle Dragon, Wyrmling -- pg. 177, Draco -- AC 17, 2d6 sonic breath weapon, fear gas breath weapon, immune to sonic.

Ethereal Dragon, Wyrmling --pg. 179, Draco -- 60ft. land speed, 2d6 force breath weapon.

Styx Dragon, Wyrmling -- pg. 188, Draco -- 60ft. land speed, 60 ft. swim speed, amphibious, aquatic, lingering acid breath weapon, Intelligence damage breath weapon, Charisma damage disease, Immune to poison and disease.

Shadow Dragon, Wyrmling -- pg. 191, Draco -- 80 ft. land speed, 150 ft. fly speed, AC 19, SR 12, Negative level breath weapon, immune to energy drain.

This ties the shadow for flight speed, shadow wins land speed, ties Styx for swim speed, shadow wins AC, and ties the shadow, battle, and fang for manuverablity.
Molot
06-22-07, 05:11 PM Updated the main list. Sadly, you cannot get most of thins listed by the Secrets Untold by Altering Self into those forms... but polymorphing by other means - why no?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Molot 06-20-07, 05:26 PM	Dragonwrought Kbold can turn into a shape of a dragon (anything with dragon type and without templates) up to 5 HD using the Alter Self spell. The best reasons to do that are Armor Bonus (Natural + Size) and movement speeds. I'm looking for the best shape in each category... I hope the chart below will be filled. Sadly, I can't do it right now (exam times), so plz give me any input you can. For now I've put SRD dragons, but I'm sure there is something better. Desired format: (age category, if needed) dragon kind, parameter's value(s), book title & page number or link. Fastest on land: Wyrmling Shadow, 80 ft., Draconomicon pg. 191 Fastest on flight: Wyrmling White, 150 ft. (average), d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#whiteDragon) Wyrmling Brass, 150 ft. (average), d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#brassDragon) Wyrmling Shadow, 150 ft. (average), Draconomicon pg. 191 Best maneuverability: All SRD Wyrmlings, average, d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm) Shadow, Battle and Fang Wyrmlings, average, Draconomicon Fastest swimmer: Wyrmling Black, 60ft (+water breathing), d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#blackDragon) Wyrmling Styx, 60ft (+water breathing), Draconomicon pg. 188 Fastest burrower: Wyrmling Brass, 30 ft., d20srd (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm#brassDragon) Fastest climber: Does any dragon have it listed at all? Spider climb doesn't do it due to limitations on what can you get from polymorph. Hardest to hit: Wyrmling Shadow, +2 size +7 natural, Draconomicon pg. 191 Most Universal: Shadow Wyrmling: wins 2, ties in 2. That makes 4 of 6.
obrysii 06-21-07, 09:48 AM	Copper Wyrmlings are tied with Blues for being the hardest to hit.
Secrets Untold 06-22-07, 09:47 AM	Fang Dragon, Wyrmling -- pg. 160, Draconomicon -- Free detect and read magic, trip ability, attacks as one size larger (small), bite deals Constitution drain, and it can imitate sounds perfectly. Also, tied for land speed (60) Battle Dragon, Wyrmling -- pg. 177, Draco -- AC 17, 2d6 sonic breath weapon, fear gas breath weapon, immune to sonic. Ethereal Dragon, Wyrmling --pg. 179, Draco -- 60ft. land speed, 2d6 force breath weapon. Styx Dragon, Wyrmling -- pg. 188, Draco -- 60ft. land speed, 60 ft. swim speed, amphibious, aquatic, lingering acid breath weapon, Intelligence damage breath weapon, Charisma damage disease, Immune to poison and disease. Shadow Dragon, Wyrmling -- pg. 191, Draco -- 80 ft. land speed, 150 ft. fly speed, AC 19, SR 12, Negative level breath weapon, immune to energy drain. This ties the shadow for flight speed, shadow wins land speed, ties Styx for swim speed, shadow wins AC, and ties the shadow, battle, and fang for manuverablity.
Molot 06-22-07, 05:11 PM	Updated the main list. Sadly, you cannot get most of thins listed by the Secrets Untold by Altering Self into those forms... but polymorphing by other means - why no?