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Zarlord
10-19-04, 02:26 AM I had a question regarding the Shadow Cloak of the Dark Ones in the Fiend Folio. I am not sure if it has been asked previously, I had a look through the threads, but couldn't find it.
Shadow Cloak (Su): Three times per day, a dark one can wrap itself in a cloak of shadows that grants it concealment from its foes. In shadows or darkness, the shadow cloak gives the creature nine-tenths concealment (40% miss chance for attackers). In bright light, the shadow cloak provides only one-half concealment (20% miss chance). Darkvision does not negate the dark ones concealment, since the shadow cloak is formed from magical darkness. Creatures that see in magical darkness, such as devils, do not have a miss chance when striking a dark one.
My brother is playing one of these characters in a campaign at the moment.
He reads the above as saying that this concealment lasts forever. There is no way to remove the cloak unless the dark one does it himself (or dispelling)
There is no Duration attached.
How long does the cloak stay on for?
Does it have a duration that we are both missing?
Has there been errata about this?
cwslyclgh
10-19-04, 05:42 AM There is no way to remove the cloak unless the dark one does it himself (or dispelling)supernatural abilities can't be dispelled, although it would not function in an anti-magic field...

it appears that the writers simply forgot to attach a duration to it... while it can be assumed that it has one since they are limited to using it 3/day... in the absense of errata it would appear to last forever as written, however, if I were to rule on it in my campaign I would have it last 1 hour per use.
Weenie
10-19-04, 12:58 PM From Dragon #322, Ecology of the Dark Ones:

Shadow Cloak (Su): Dark creepers can conceal themselves in shadows the indicated number of times per day*. This ability provides concealment in bright light, and total concealment in shadows. Darkvision does not negate this concealment, but creatures that can see in magical darkness ignore this effect. Each use of this ability lasts 10 minutes per Hit Die, but the dark creeper can dismiss it at will.

* 3/day for a fully grown creature. The text is from a monster class description, hence the wording. It gets 1 use per day at 1st level, 2/day at 3rd, and 3/day at 5th.
Zarlord
10-19-04, 07:01 PM oops, yeah, i keep confusing Su and Sp for some stupid reason.
But thanks for the help. I will see if he will listen to the Dragon Magazine.
If not, I'll wait for the errata to come out.
Weenie
10-21-04, 05:00 AM oops, yeah, i keep confusing Su and Sp for some stupid reason.
But thanks for the help. I will see if he will listen to the Dragon Magazine.
If not, I'll wait for the errata to come out.

Well, errata for FF isn't likely to come out ... ever. We got the 3.5 update, and it seems that's it.

BTW, Dragon's considered "100% official", isn't it? ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Zarlord 10-19-04, 02:26 AM	I had a question regarding the Shadow Cloak of the Dark Ones in the Fiend Folio. I am not sure if it has been asked previously, I had a look through the threads, but couldn't find it. Shadow Cloak (Su): Three times per day, a dark one can wrap itself in a cloak of shadows that grants it concealment from its foes. In shadows or darkness, the shadow cloak gives the creature nine-tenths concealment (40% miss chance for attackers). In bright light, the shadow cloak provides only one-half concealment (20% miss chance). Darkvision does not negate the dark ones concealment, since the shadow cloak is formed from magical darkness. Creatures that see in magical darkness, such as devils, do not have a miss chance when striking a dark one. My brother is playing one of these characters in a campaign at the moment. He reads the above as saying that this concealment lasts forever. There is no way to remove the cloak unless the dark one does it himself (or dispelling) There is no Duration attached. How long does the cloak stay on for? Does it have a duration that we are both missing? Has there been errata about this?
cwslyclgh 10-19-04, 05:42 AM	There is no way to remove the cloak unless the dark one does it himself (or dispelling)supernatural abilities can't be dispelled, although it would not function in an anti-magic field... it appears that the writers simply forgot to attach a duration to it... while it can be assumed that it has one since they are limited to using it 3/day... in the absense of errata it would appear to last forever as written, however, if I were to rule on it in my campaign I would have it last 1 hour per use.
Weenie 10-19-04, 12:58 PM	From Dragon #322, Ecology of the Dark Ones: Shadow Cloak (Su): Dark creepers can conceal themselves in shadows the indicated number of times per day. This ability provides concealment in bright light, and total concealment in shadows. Darkvision does not negate this concealment, but creatures that can see in magical darkness ignore this effect. Each use of this ability lasts 10 minutes per Hit Die, but the dark creeper can dismiss it at will. 3/day for a fully grown creature. The text is from a monster class description, hence the wording. It gets 1 use per day at 1st level, 2/day at 3rd, and 3/day at 5th.
Zarlord 10-19-04, 07:01 PM	oops, yeah, i keep confusing Su and Sp for some stupid reason. But thanks for the help. I will see if he will listen to the Dragon Magazine. If not, I'll wait for the errata to come out.
Weenie 10-21-04, 05:00 AM	oops, yeah, i keep confusing Su and Sp for some stupid reason. But thanks for the help. I will see if he will listen to the Dragon Magazine. If not, I'll wait for the errata to come out. Well, errata for FF isn't likely to come out ... ever. We got the 3.5 update, and it seems that's it. BTW, Dragon's considered "100% official", isn't it? ;)