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Centauri 03-24-05, 04:19 PM	My party is being attacked by summoned fiendish hawks. How do these creatures attack? They're only "average" fliers and don't have the Hover feat, so they can't hover. They don't have the Fly-by Attack feat, even though that's how I would guess a hawk would attack a large ground target if it had to, slashing with its talons as it zoomed by. How do I run this? (Fortunately, it's PBEM game, so I have time to work something out.) Thanks.
Nuntius128 03-24-05, 04:55 PM	Increase HD until they can get Fly-By or Hover? That's all I've got.
Helmed Horror 03-24-05, 06:32 PM	they either A.) ram them and grapple w/ their talons. B.) Poke the player's eyes out. 2 common bird tatics... but it really depends on the bird's intellegence and wisdom.
The Painter 03-24-05, 07:18 PM	Right, Fiendish Hawk. Just so we all know what we's a lookin' ats... Hawk Size/Type: Tiny Animal Hit Dice: 1d8 (4 hp) Initiative: +3 Speed: 10 ft. (2 squares), fly 60 ft. (average) Armor Class: 17 (+2 size, +3 Dex, +2 natural), touch 15, flat-footed 14 Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-10 Attack: Talons +5 melee (1d4-2) Full Attack: Talons +5 melee (1d4-2) Space/Reach: 2½ ft./0 ft. Special Attacks: — Special Qualities: Low-light vision Saves: Fort +2, Ref +5, Will +2 Abilities: Str 6, Dex 17, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 14, Cha 6 Skills: Listen +4, Spot +16 Feats: Alertness, Weapon Finesse Environment: Temperate forests Organization: Solitary or pair Challenge Rating: 1/3 Advancement: — Level Adjustment: — Modified by the Fiendish Template it'd look like... Fiendish Hawk Size/Type: Tiny Animal Hit Dice: 1d8 (4 hp) Initiative: +3 Speed: 10 ft. (2 squares), fly 60 ft. (average) Armor Class: 17 (+2 size, +3 Dex, +2 natural), touch 15, flat-footed 14 Base Attack/Grapple: +0/-10 Attack: Talons +5 melee (1d4-2) Full Attack: Talons +5 melee (1d4-2) Space/Reach: 2½ ft./0 ft. Special Attacks: Smite Good Special Qualities: Low-light vision, Darkvision 60', Resistance to Cold and FIre 5, SR 6 Saves: Fort +2, Ref +5, Will +2 Abilities: Str 6, Dex 17, Con 10, Int 3, Wis 14, Cha 6 Skills: Listen +4, Spot +16 Feats: Alertness, Weapon Finesse Environment: Temperate forests Organization: Solitary or pair Challenge Rating: 1/3 Advancement: — Level Adjustment: — Alright, so it can't Hover and attack and it can't Fly-By.... A typical hunting hawk would most likely attack with a charge. It would swoop down on its prey, at 120ft. speed and attack with a bonus. The next round (which would be nearly instantaneously) it continues flying. Now, when attacking a larger creature, the hawk would fly in (perhaps Charge, perhaps not) and claw at its opponent. The next round it would retreat (not provoking an AoO as it uses a full move) then it would swoop back in again the very next round. Remember, while combat is broken down into rounds this only to simulate the illusion of what happens. The hawk flying in and clawing its opponent's eyes would be one swift smooth motion as would it wheeling (with enough time to be attacked - the difference between having Fly-By-Attack and not) and flying off. If the hawk had fly-by attack it would attack and be gone so fast that its victim would not get an attack.
Centauri 03-24-05, 07:39 PM	Fiendish Hawk Size/Type: Tiny Animal Hit Dice: 1d8 (4 hp) I think it's actually 1d10 because fiendish animals become magical beasts. Skills: Listen +4, Spot +16 Just +2 and +14. I believe Alertness is already factored in. Otherwise, I got the same results from the template. Thanks for the advice.