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JDRoundtree 01-22-04, 10:28 AM	I'm currently building a ranger that has evil outsiders as his major favored enemy (the one he gives most of his bonuses to) I realize that that makes demons and devils the most appropriate to take his damage bonuses. However, I was under the assumption that celestial creatures and fiendish creatures would be good and evil outsiders respectively, and was surprised to see that they were listed as magical beasts. I understand that familiars and animal companions become magical beasts due to their link with a master or companion, but I was under the impression that (despite adding a template to an existing creature) that fiendish and celestial creatures were BORN, for lack of a better word, fiendish or celestial. Also, in game terms, there are tons of magical beast already, and it seems like it would give a ranger who picked either good or evil outsiders a LOT more chances to use their favored enemy ability on creatures that literally could be ANY challenge rating, and it would come in handy against a lot of the summoned creatures that appear on the monster summoning spell lists. I might move to change the type and subtype of fiendish and celestial creatures in my own gaming. Others opinions? thanks, and cheers
Kastas 01-22-04, 10:36 AM	Let me begin by saying that it probably doesn't make a big difference one way or another whether you choose to make them outsiders, unless you plan on using a huge number of them in your campaign. That said, there are supposed to be advantages and disadvantages to choosing each different favored enemy type. If a player chooses evil outsiders, he should know that he's specializing in a type of monster that is not very common at lower levels (even though there are a number of low-level fiends in the MM, BoVD, and FF, among others). If you decide to start throwing a ton of outsiders at the party, the ranger will suddenly have a big advantage over the other characters. Whether that's something you want is up to you.